*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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The exit fee for MO will be higher than aTm because TCU came aboard and now WVU now may be stuck till 2014 in the BE. Fox and ESPN does not want only 9 teams as their agreement was for 12 teams. I would hate top see Big 12 lose $100M because MOP left the game early.Maybe M<OP can play in both leagues at same time till WVU is cleared. I project that we will see MO next year in Ames.
 
Weekly update from A&M's AD Bill Byrne:

Wednesday Weekly: Great Start to Aggie Hoops, SEC Schedule Update - Texas A&M Official Athletic Site - AggieAthletics.com

For our weekly SEC transition update, I’m able to give you first hand information directly from the SEC office in Birmingham where I am attending SEC athletic director meetings. The main topic we are discussing is schedules in all sports. We don’t know if we will have 13- or 14-team schedules. The SEC has developed both, because we are awaiting official word if Missouri will be able to compete in the SEC next year or not.



Not relevant to the thread but funny (Aggie's are a little ****** about their football program):

I’ve been hearing from some of you who are suggesting options for me to consider. One emailer provided me the number of the local bus company and a map of all roads leading out of Aggieland. Another sent me a Google list of moving and storage companies in south Texas and suggested we start a bidding process to help me move.
 
Maybe...although NU agreed to the same bylaws, and they ended up paying about half. Harvey Perlman thought the bylaws were unenforceable, and felt his school should pay nothing.

WVU has argued that since the Big East lost several of its top programs, it shouldn't be held to agreements with a conference that is substantially different than the one it signed with. I have no idea if a similar argument could work for Missouri.

I'm still thinking settlement.

Two completely different things. The Big East lost Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, and now add Pitt and Syracuse to that mix. Basically they lost any team that was worth a **** in that conference and replaced them with mid-major programs. Now they are looking to add even more mid-major programs in an attempt to make the conference have enough members to continue on. West Virginia didn't sign up to be in a mid major conference.

Mizzou on the other hand is having a crappy season in the Big XII this year because as a collective the Big XII still has plenty of quality programs. They can't argue the point because the Big XII has not lost any prestige in all of this. In fact... with the loss of Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M the conference is now stronger then it has ever been. Adding TCU and West Virginia to the mix is a huge upgrade. Mizzou wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they tried to argue that point. West Virginia on the other hand has an excellent case.
 
Big East Update...Big East going after BYU hard...I like the note at the bottom. Basically says Big East is planning on TV payouts of at least 7.5 million per school per year. If that's all they got it will probably end up being less than 1/2 of other BCS conferences when the dust settles.

AP source: Big East focuses on BYU for west wing - College Football - Rivals.com

Then another spot in the Big East opened late last month when West Virginia announced it was moving to the Big 12. At that point, Temple and Memphis seemed like strong candidates to join the league, but BYU has moved past those schools now, the person said.

The C-USA schools are ready to make the move and Navy also seems to be leaning heavily toward joining, the person said.

Air Force has been non-committal about leaving the Mountain West, and that is part of the reason why such focus has been placed on adding BYU, the person said.
BYU’s television deals could complicate the process.

Part of the Big East’s recruiting pitch has been that the new members would stand to make substantially more in television revenue by joining the league.

Boise State President Bob Kustra estimated the annual payout to Big East football members at $3.7 million under its current TV contract, compared to the $1.9 million projected as the top payout in the Mountain West. Big East officials believe the league will be able to more than double payouts to members with the league’s next TV deal.
 
Big East Update...Big East going after BYU hard...I like the note at the bottom. Basically says Big East is planning on TV payouts of at least 7.5 million per school per year. If that's all they got it will probably end up being less than 1/2 of other BCS conferences when the dust settles.

AP source: Big East focuses on BYU for west wing - College Football - Rivals.com

Then another spot in the Big East opened late last month when West Virginia announced it was moving to the Big 12. At that point, Temple and Memphis seemed like strong candidates to join the league, but BYU has moved past those schools now, the person said.

The C-USA schools are ready to make the move and Navy also seems to be leaning heavily toward joining, the person said.

Air Force has been non-committal about leaving the Mountain West, and that is part of the reason why such focus has been placed on adding BYU, the person said.
BYU’s television deals could complicate the process.

Part of the Big East’s recruiting pitch has been that the new members would stand to make substantially more in television revenue by joining the league.

Boise State President Bob Kustra estimated the annual payout to Big East football members at $3.7 million under its current TV contract, compared to the $1.9 million projected as the top payout in the Mountain West. Big East officials believe the league will be able to more than double payouts to members with the league’s next TV deal.
The more I see, the more glad that we are not moving to the BR.
 
Mizzou and A&M's escape plan.
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Perfect!
 
The exit fee for MO will be higher than aTm because TCU came aboard and now WVU now may be stuck till 2014 in the BE. Fox and ESPN does not want only 9 teams as their agreement was for 12 teams. I would hate top see Big 12 lose $100M because MOP left the game early.Maybe M<OP can play in both leagues at same time till WVU is cleared. I project that we will see MO next year in Ames.

Gotta remember though, the exit fees have NOTHING to do with the timing on when WVU joins up. There was some concern that IF WVU could not join the B12 in 2012, and IF as a result of only having 9 teams the networks chose to void the TV contracts, then MU could potentially be liable for the lost revenue.

However, since both WVU and the Big 12 expect the Mountaineers to participate next year, then it's reasonable for Missouri and the SEC to expect that as well. WVU's acceptance into the Big 12 ought to clear Mizzou from any liability, since they were officially added BEFORE MU withdrew from the conference.

MU and TAMU will pay (roughly) the same exit fees, since both withdrew in the "6 to 12 months notice" window in the bylaws.

The only way MU ends up in Ames next year is if the university jet is hijacked by Veisha rioters. :smile:
 
Didn't read Mizzoulander's reply after the first sentence. I'm sure it has something to say like, "Our ZOU chant will allow us to void all exit fees." New upgrade in the rock M rock garden will leave Nienas so in awe that any potential exit fee will be exactly equal dollar amount no matter what year you leave because 9 months notice is the same as 33 months notice to us.
 
Mizzou logic: "Because they didn't want any money that the hands of those mason jar loving southerners had touched, they won't want any of ours either."


Sorry missery fans, ya'll are gonna have to write a nice big check to the rest of the schools in the conference. Consider it our "you are a bunch of tools" tax on the state of mizzery.
 
Gotta remember though, the exit fees have NOTHING to do with the timing on when WVU joins up. There was some concern that IF WVU could not join the B12 in 2012, and IF as a result of only having 9 teams the networks chose to void the TV contracts, then MU could potentially be liable for the lost revenue.

However, since both WVU and the Big 12 expect the Mountaineers to participate next year, then it's reasonable for Missouri and the SEC to expect that as well. WVU's acceptance into the Big 12 ought to clear Mizzou from any liability, since they were officially added BEFORE MU withdrew from the conference.

MU and TAMU will pay (roughly) the same exit fees, since both withdrew in the "6 to 12 months notice" window in the bylaws.

The only way MU ends up in Ames next year is if the university jet is hijacked by Veisha rioters. :smile:

I am sure WVU will get out of the Big East. Money talks. And how embarassing would it be for the Big East to have WVU win the Big East title the rest of the time they are in the league. They will look like an even bigger doormat than they appear to be.

As far as the Exit Fees. Money is NOT an issue according to you. So the Big 12 is expecting the Exit Fees as outlined in the by-laws. NO Negotiation. Cut and dried. Just make out the check. Bye-bye.
 
The only way MU ends up in Ames next year is if the university jet is hijacked by Veisha rioters. :smile:

1) You traditionally have taken buses to Ames.
2) You spelled "VEISHEA" incorrectly.
3) Enjoy your new role as 'VanderZOU' (without the academic standing of course).

I really never hated Missyou all that much before you started posting. Now I think all of you are possum-eating, toothless nitwits.
 
Big East Update...Big East going after BYU hard...I like the note at the bottom. Basically says Big East is planning on TV payouts of at least 7.5 million per school per year. If that's all they got it will probably end up being less than 1/2 of other BCS conferences when the dust settles.

AP source: Big East focuses on BYU for west wing - College Football - Rivals.com

Then another spot in the Big East opened late last month when West Virginia announced it was moving to the Big 12. At that point, Temple and Memphis seemed like strong candidates to join the league, but BYU has moved past those schools now, the person said.

The C-USA schools are ready to make the move and Navy also seems to be leaning heavily toward joining, the person said.

Air Force has been non-committal about leaving the Mountain West, and that is part of the reason why such focus has been placed on adding BYU, the person said.
BYU’s television deals could complicate the process.

Part of the Big East’s recruiting pitch has been that the new members would stand to make substantially more in television revenue by joining the league.

Boise State President Bob Kustra estimated the annual payout to Big East football members at $3.7 million under its current TV contract, compared to the $1.9 million projected as the top payout in the Mountain West. Big East officials believe the league will be able to more than double payouts to members with the league’s next TV deal.

prefer to see BYU come to the BIG12
 
Zoolander,

The SEC is still planning a 13 and a 14 team team schedule for next year. They are not sure that ZOU will be migrating yet.

You may be taking a bus to Ames next year.
 
I am sure WVU will get out of the Big East. Money talks. And how embarassing would it be for the Big East to have WVU win the Big East title the rest of the time they are in the league. They will look like an even bigger doormat than they appear to be.

As far as the Exit Fees. Money is NOT an issue according to you. So the Big 12 is expecting the Exit Fees as outlined in the by-laws. NO Negotiation. Cut and dried. Just make out the check. Bye-bye.

Even better - Mizzou will be paying the Big East to release WVU
 
Zoolander,

The SEC is still planning a 13 and a 14 team team schedule for next year. They are not sure that ZOU will be migrating yet.

You may be taking a bus to Ames next year.

Or we (the Big 12) could all point and laugh in the general direction of columbia while holding out a hand for the money they will owe us. If they aren't in the Big XII, why should we provide them with football games?
 
Or we (the Big 12) could all point and laugh in the general direction of columbia while holding out a hand for the money they will owe us. If they aren't in the Big XII, why should we provide them with football games?

Exactly.

What Mizzou does is no longer our problem.
 
Just to pull the expansion thread back to the front...

The obvious candidate is Louisville.

I think the not-so-obvious candidate we should pursue is UK. I would like to bring in a football team we can beat more often than not. It would strengthen basketball even more. And also bring in a great regionall rival with Louisville.

I think UK would have a little more football success in the Big 12 than the SEC. (2 or 3 conference wins versus 1 or 2)
 
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