*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Apparently you didn't read to the end of the article, with the link to Shatel's column advocating the opposite view. Herbstreit thought the move made sense, as well as Barry Tramel from Okla. These aren't SEC writers.

The ones strongly against Mizzou to the SEC are KC tourism business interests (who don't give a rip about MU) and message board posters from schools who might be adversely affected by the move (who REALLY don't give a rip about MU). Most everyone else is OK with it.

I didn't think McKeowan's column made a lot of sense. Why is Mizzou to the B1G such a "sure thing." This is a conference that lived with 11 teams for more than a decade. They're not going to expand unless ND wants in (which is probably never).

We only border 3 major conferences. One doesn't want us (B1G). Another has lost 1/4 of its members in the past 18 months. The third is the SEC.

Once again you are overvaluing Mizzou's importance. You will be replaced and the conference will be better withou you. SO leave (both you and Mizzou).
 
The impetus for schools leaving the Big 12 has been about pride. The impetus for other conferences to accept them into their league has been about money.

So true. Thanks for making it simple for all. This is, unfortunately, what our world has become. It's all about money, pride, pride in money, having money, having pride because you have money.

Whatever happened to "doing the right thing". My guess is that every one of our parents always wanted that, yet because of ego and greed, we cannot.

That is what is so sad about our society.

I will be there Saturday at 7am. I will stay ALL day, because ISU is MY team. The rest of this really doesn't matter in the long run
 
Lets get back to A&M for just a bit... Read what BU WBB coach Kim Mulkey said today at the Big12 Presser. She took down A&M. Game Set Match. See her answer to the Question at end of page 1 running over onto page 2. I like her style, she could be a cyclone!

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/mediaday/bay-101911.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=10410


She's right, A$M and Mizzou think they can have their cake and eat it too. Demand to maintain important rivalries as out of conference games, while running for the money (maybe) by leaving the conference.

If it's divorce, it SHOULD be final. ALL Big 12 schools should take her answer to heart. IF it wasn't important for A&M to play UT as a conference game any more, why should it be important to play them at all? Same for MU and KU.
 
For what it's worth, Salt Lake City paper reporter guesses that BYU will end up in the Big 12. For once, it's nice to know that he puts this out there as his own opinion rather than citing unnamed sources.

Is BYU really headed to the Big 12? | Deseret News

I'd like to throw BYU's Big 12 expansion fatigue-weary fans a bone...

I'll throw a bone. Since I've been bombarded for two months by folks asking what I think will happen in this expansion thing, I'll keep it simple, and I'm not citing "informed sources," the popular cliche of this summer and fall.


BYU will be in the Big 12.

I'll go it one more: It doesn't matter if Missouri goes or stays in the Big 12.


There, it's on me.
 
The opinion here seems to be that BYU is still talking, asking for the 4 Tier 1 games, and that they'd be stupid to not accept an offer from the BXII.
 
The opinion here seems to be that BYU is still talking, asking for the 4 Tier 1 games, and that they'd be stupid to not accept an offer from the BXII.

Given what all the schools in the Big 12 have gone through in the last year and a half, BYU would have to agree to the basic deal everyone else has agreed to--release of all media rights to the conference, and equal revenue sharing--or there simply won't be the votes to admit them. Nobody has the patience to deal with any member school who wants something different at this point.

I have no reason to believe BYU would endorse such terms, it really doesn't fit with their mission and how they view BYU football as part of it.

That's why I think reports that the Big 12 have cooled on BYU are absolutely factual. A great school, a great market, but fundamentally incompatible with what the Big 12 is looking for in a new member school.
 
The opinion here seems to be that BYU is still talking, asking for the 4 Tier 1 games, and that they'd be stupid to not accept an offer from the BXII.

BYU should get no special deal. They can enter as an equal, with the same rules as everyone else, or they can stay independent. I'm cool with the whole no sunday games thing for them, but thats about as far as i'd be willing to go concessions-wise.
 
BYU should get no special deal. They can enter as an equal, with the same rules as everyone else, or they can stay independent. I'm cool with the whole no sunday games thing for them, but thats about as far as i'd be willing to go concessions-wise.

What if the concession they're waiting on is actually another mountain region team (you'd have to think BSU with the series deal they have) joining them?

The two BIG concessions the B12 has openly admitted to being fine with. No games on Sundays and keeping their network. Steering the expansion teams is the only other realistic concession that makes sense for them to be holding out for.

If they think they can somehow get a better deal than UT, they may be doing Cincy a huge favor by adding them as #12.
 
We need to start brainstorming names for this:

The Riot Bowl

Winner plays for a trophy that features a half couch/half dumpster on fire.

:biglaugh:

It seems like the perfect matchup since UL and Cincy already have a rivalry. All the others in the conference easily match leaving us with WVU. Same stadium design too.
 
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