We wouldn't have any more wins in the Big 10. Are you f******* kidding me? We just got rolled by KU. Wake up people!!! We are the worst power 5 team in the nation by far.
The Jerry Kill Comparison
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ISU has the 10th most difficult schedule in the nation
Minnesota 70th
U of I 63rd
since we're being all technical and stuff.
Sagarin Ratings through games of November 8
I would do the same and JP needs to buy out of these ridiculous road games vs. MAC schools. That should never happen.
Didn't Brewster start off pulling really good recruiting classes? I've always considered U of M as one of those programs that should be good based solely on the concentration of local talent with no local competition for recruits. I know there are a lot more factors than that, such as fan support, which has been weak as long as I can remember.
Brewster was allegedly a recruiting prodigy and it flamed out.
Pollard chose Rhoads to be our guy 6 years ago because he didn't want someone to use us as a stepping stone, he wanted someone to build us up and be one of us.....well Rhoads has never built a program, he has been a phenonmenal D coordinator and has passion for days, but nowhere on his previous resume did it state 'Turned awful football program into something relevant' and that folks, is something Kill has done, and is in the early stages of doing at a Power 5 conference.
Pollard chose Rhoads to be our guy 6 years ago because he didn't want someone to use us as a stepping stone, he wanted someone to build us up and be one of us.....well Rhoads has never built a program, he has been a phenonmenal D coordinator and has passion for days, but nowhere on his previous resume did it state 'Turned awful football program into something relevant' and that folks, is something Kill has done, and is in the early stages of doing at a Power 5 conference.
He's a good coach but let's not pretend he's Bill Snyder. They will probably win 7 games this year, maybe 8, which isn't really all that great in the Big Ten. Maybe they keep progressing, I don't know.
Well we beat the a middle of the pack Big 10 team at their place earlier this year. So I don't think its a stretch to say we'd beat Purdue, Northwestern, and Indiana who Iowa pasted. And we could beat Illinois. That's 5 potential conference wins right there.
Side note: Iowa's schedule is god awful.
Haven't read through the thread yet, but being from Minnesota and still sort of following them, I have some thoughts. For as sorry as Minnesota football has been in recent memory, they do have some definite things going for them over ISU:
-A little bit more populous state, with no other FBS in-state school to battle for recruits. We have to fight Iowa for even our middle-of-the-road in-state kids. The closest thing Minnesota has to deal with on that front is NDSU.
-Beyond that, they can recruit within their surrounding region easier because they actually play in the same conference that MN, IA, WI, IL, and Dakota kids grew up watching.
-Kill arrived at around the same time they opened TCF Bank Stadium, which really spiked interest in Gophers games in the Twin Cities.
-They have really feasted on a much easier 4-game non-con than ISU has played recently. And then they get to go play an easier B1G schedule.
So, I'm not saying that Kill might not be a better coach than Rhoads. I'm not saying his philosophy might not have it's merits if it was applied to Ames. But Minnesota was definitely an easier turn-around job than ISU would have been.
-A little bit more populous state, with no other FBS in-state school to battle for recruits. We have to fight Iowa for even our middle-of-the-road in-state kids. The closest thing Minnesota has to deal with on that front is NDSU.
-Beyond that, they can recruit within their surrounding region easier because they actually play in the same conference that MN, IA, WI, IL, and Dakota kids grew up watching.
-Kill arrived at around the same time they opened TCF Bank Stadium, which really spiked interest in Gophers games in the Twin Cities.
-They have really feasted on a much easier 4-game non-con than ISU has played recently. And then they get to go play an easier B1G schedule.
So, I'm not saying that Kill might not be a better coach than Rhoads. I'm not saying his philosophy might not have it's merits if it was applied to Ames. But Minnesota was definitely an easier turn-around job than ISU would have been.
The biggest competition for Kill is Wisconsin. They have pulled the best recruits out of Minnesota for a while. Kill seems to be turning that around. The new stadium on campus, and support is helping him quite a bit. When they were in the dome you couldn't blame a kid for not wanting to play there.
Yea, I probably undersold recruiting against Wisconsin. But I think you kind of touched on my point, if you can just prove that playing at Minnesota isn't a hopeless case, you'll start getting more of those kids to stay home. Even those couple years where it looked like Rhoads might be getting something going at ISU, you're still having an uphill recruiting battle against Iowa.
Don't want to make this into a "Kill" Kill thread, but it's also worth noting that 3 coaches in a row were the "hot" coach at NIU. NIU is set up for success in the MAC vs their competition. High population state, 90 minute drive from Chicago, NW can't recruit a lot of the players NIU can and the other major team in the state perpetually sucks. Compare that to the Ohio, Indiana and Michigan MAC opponents going against OSU, Mich, MSU, and ND without being right next to the largest city in the midwest…of course NIU is going to dominate the MAC regardless of who their coach is.
LOL, they would absolutely humiliate us. They are a good rushing team and would run the ball all day long on us with ease.
Hmmmmm.......same thing was said before the Iowa Hawkeye game before ISU played them in Iowa City. How did that game turn out?
This is now November, not September. Also, Iowa really struggled to move the ball on the ground, or at all for that matter earlier this year. It's also kinda funny you say this right after Minnesota just got done steamrolling them.
Why? We played well enough against KState and Texas to beat most Big Ten teams on those days. That's 4 wins if we still beat the Big Ten team we did get to play and Toledo, sub out a conference team for another horrible team and that's a chance at 5 with a few left to play.
There are several clearly bad Big Ten teams that will make bowls this year, there is a bad Big Ten team that's been in and out of the rankings.
Minnesota would struggle playing even mediocre teams in the Big 12. They lost to Illinois for goodness sakes.....which lost to Purdue.