The more I read about it, the more I think there is a significant chance this is all an elaborate simulation.
The Beginning of Time and Eventually Earth
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I feel like the group of people who think that we're living in a simulation has massive crossover with the group that think they're the main character. Not saying it's you personally... but it seems like there's a callousness/jadedness/disconnectedness to those who think this way.
I dunno but I think we used to have a JLH emoji and that's what this forum truly NEEDS
The earth is held on the back of 2 elephants that are on the back of a giant turtle that is traveling through space
I'm a fan of this discussion and am a Bible-reading Christian. To say I know anything based on anything I've read would be disingenuous. To me we will not know anything definitive with our human brain. I do know that many humans will come to a conclusion and argue vehemently one way or another. "This is the way".
Agreed. But I don't think it matters (until reboot, anyway). Existence seems so implausible.
Whether you’re a creationist or evolutionist, have you ever just sat and thought about first-man/woman and what that must have been like?
If you’re a creationist, then a man and woman were simply dropped onto the earth and had to fend for themselves. So were they late-teens upon their creation? And if so, imagine suddenly having to feed yourself having never done that task before. And then, just a few hours later when darkness sets in, trying to keep warm. No skills to create fire and no way to generate heat for warmth; it’s all new and never been done before. Did first-man watch other animals kill and decided that’s how/what to eat? Were they simply scavengers in the beginning? We’re built to eat and pro-create, so the first year must have been built doing just that. Imagine the shock when first-woman started to swell with child and then finally giving birth! All this still with no clothing, or at-best, small pelts layered together. Because killing large beasts certainly came much later.
Then imagine the similar side of humans evolving! Did the first bi-ped just breed with apes? And then from those ongoing pairings continue to stray further from apes? And if so, when did tools, clothing, fire, etc. finally become standard? Imagine these new humans puzzling over tools between constant need for food! Remember, they had to forage and hunt everything!
If you’re a creationist, then a man and woman were simply dropped onto the earth and had to fend for themselves. So were they late-teens upon their creation? And if so, imagine suddenly having to feed yourself having never done that task before. And then, just a few hours later when darkness sets in, trying to keep warm. No skills to create fire and no way to generate heat for warmth; it’s all new and never been done before. Did first-man watch other animals kill and decided that’s how/what to eat? Were they simply scavengers in the beginning? We’re built to eat and pro-create, so the first year must have been built doing just that. Imagine the shock when first-woman started to swell with child and then finally giving birth! All this still with no clothing, or at-best, small pelts layered together. Because killing large beasts certainly came much later.
Then imagine the similar side of humans evolving! Did the first bi-ped just breed with apes? And then from those ongoing pairings continue to stray further from apes? And if so, when did tools, clothing, fire, etc. finally become standard? Imagine these new humans puzzling over tools between constant need for food! Remember, they had to forage and hunt everything!
Past lives, reincarnation, deja vu, etc, could be an overlap of some parameter of consciousness that has happened in infinite other big bangs/realities.
I mean it's most likely nonsense, but if it is a real thing that's what it would actually be.
I can't speak to the second paragraph, but to the third paragraph it's that as populations drifted apart certain groups of protohumans one generation find they can no longer reproduce fertile offspring with other groups. It's drifting apart as they change, not coming together or interbreeding.
I don’t know how existence was created and neither does anyone else. Pretty much every theory has as much credence as the next, simply because we just don’t know. Is the story of creation in the Bible true? Probably not, but it isn’t any less implausible than everything else.
My biggest issue with the atheistic view of the creation of the universe is that it requires just as much blind faith as any religious view, if not more. I can get on board with the Big Bang and all scientific explanations until you get to how and why the laws/forces of nature (gravity, time, physics) that make our existence possible are in place. That’s where you get to the answer of “they just are and it’s completely randomly that we exist.” So you’re telling me that all these ingredients that make existence possible just happened to mix perfectly in the .00000001% chance that this could possibly happen? That takes a bigger leap of faith than to say something omnipotent created this formula to our existence and put it in place IMO.
My biggest issue with the atheistic view of the creation of the universe is that it requires just as much blind faith as any religious view, if not more. I can get on board with the Big Bang and all scientific explanations until you get to how and why the laws/forces of nature (gravity, time, physics) that make our existence possible are in place. That’s where you get to the answer of “they just are and it’s completely randomly that we exist.” So you’re telling me that all these ingredients that make existence possible just happened to mix perfectly in the .00000001% chance that this could possibly happen? That takes a bigger leap of faith than to say something omnipotent created this formula to our existence and put it in place IMO.
Inevitability of Life
The decay of the Universe is best defined by what is now ubiquitously regarded by all today’s physicists as the rate of qualitative…
"The simple fact is, life needn’t be a mystical and magical force of the hidden Gods of the countless lottery of religion. To understand science in all of its glory is just as fantastic and amazing as any proverbs, revelations or fables of ancient human civilisation.
Religion is of man, not of God, and no man can disprove this. To have faith in any religion is seemingly akin to the universal laws of physics as self reinforced delusions flying in the face of empirical fact and hard evidence. Historically, religions have been set in place by the political will of empires and governments around the world for thousands of generations, to instil fear and order upon the vox populi.
Why do we invent the cheap myths and monsters that make the world seem less normal and more bizarre and interesting if you tread a predetermined path? Especially when the wonders of this beautifully amazing, awe inspiring, wondrous, natural world is here, right now under our feet for everyone to discover this amazing planet we call our home."
You should watch this.
The Beginning of Time and Eventually Earth
His recent transgressions aside, I really liked the Will Smith narrated "One Strange Rock" on Disney+. It's mostly focused on the events that made Earth what it is today, but there's some talk of the universe in general.
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Focusing just on the last few thousand years, it’s absolutely amazing and nearly unbelievable the various similarities in building structures, drawings, etc across the continents when there wasn’t global knowledge.