The Beginning of Time and Eventually Earth

His recent transgressions aside, I really liked the Will Smith narrated "One Strange Rock" on Disney+. It's mostly focused on the events that made Earth what it is today, but there's some talk of the universe in general.
 
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened." - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe
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Ok, it's the middle of offseason and we need another mental exercise. Try to keep this civil as clearly nobody knows anything for certain...

How do you think the universe was created, started, etc? How did that eventually turn into what we know as Earth and its huge variety in minerals, life forms, etc?
The James Webb Space Telescope seems to be refuting the Big Bang Theory and subsequently the theory that the universe is ever expanding and the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other. My guess is it's always been here. Why do we have to have a "start-up event," whether that be an explosion or some supernatural being we can't see waving his magic wand?
 
Hard to say because we can only see so far, It's possible the Universe goes on forever. Or what if galaxies are just neurons for a larger collective being? Are there parallel universes? Do black holes traverse to those places. Then there's higher dimensions that we are unable to perceive. Traveling to another galaxy is essentially impossible for mortal beings constrained by time. It's really fun to think about for sure.
 
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Hard to say because we can only see so far, It's possible the Universe goes on forever. Or what if galaxies are just neurons for a larger collective being? Are there parallel universes? Do black holes traverse to those places. Then there's higher dimensions that we are unable to perceive. Traveling to another galaxy is essentially impossible for mortal beings constrained by time. It's really fun to think about for sure.
Can I buy some pot from you?
 
Being that energy can be neither created nor destroyed (by our understanding anyway). I think the universe expands and collapses on an endless cycle so the "Big Bang" was really just one of many over time.
Also, there is a program on infinity on Netflix that is difficult to wrap your brain around but worth it.
 
It's just a theoretical question.

Personally, I've always found it unimaginably complex that there was nothing but a tiny dot that exploded into everything that became the universe. In theory, neither time nor space existed until the Big Bang. It's just so trippy to think about because you could theorize a million possibilities, and the real one we'll likely never be able to understand.

I think the inability to even comprehend the matter is why the simulation theory is so popular - it at least gives people a way to explain the unexplainable.
 
It's just a theoretical question.

Personally, I've always found it unimaginably complex that there was nothing but a tiny dot that exploded into everything that became the universe. In theory, neither time nor space existed until the Big Bang. It's just so trippy to think about because you could theorize a million possibilities, and the real one we'll likely never be able to understand.

I think the inability to even comprehend the matter is why the simulation theory is so popular - it at least gives people a way to explain the unexplainable.
It does make me wonder what we "know" today that in 100-1000 years (if people are still around), they will be like, "oh, you silly cave people." Of course, this part of science is why the idiots can say conspiracy theories "might" be correct.
 
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Being that energy can be neither created nor destroyed (by our understanding anyway). I think the universe expands and collapses on an endless cycle so the "Big Bang" was really just one of many over time.
Also, there is a program on infinity on Netflix that is difficult to wrap your brain around but worth it.
I've heard that theory before, I like to call it the big belch theory. Basically everything keeps expanding until it then starts contracting back into a solid mass, only to create another big bang.
 
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I've heard that theory before, I like to call it the big belch theory. Basically everything keeps expanding until it then starts contracting back into a solid mass, only to create another big bang.
With the new photos of 'ancient galaxies' having much more mature stars and galaxies than we anticipated there is growing support for a universe that is infinite.
 
I've heard that theory before, I like to call it the big belch theory. Basically everything keeps expanding until it then starts contracting back into a solid mass, only to create another big bang.
Yes, I would never claim that as my own by any stretch. One I heard that made the most sense to my pea sized brain. I like the "big belch" part.
 
This thread reminds me of my one-question mid-term exam in Philosophy 160, taught by ISU's infamous Dr. E.D. Klemke:

What in this world can be known to exist? (Be specific)
 
This thread reminds me of my one-question mid-term exam in Philosophy 160, taught by ISU's infamous Dr. E.D. Klemke:

What in this world can be known to exist? (Be specific)

‘Exist’ and its cognates are actually used very seldom in English, and only when there is doubt. They’re also used differently with respect to abstract concepts, concrete nouns and specific objects, including names. But ultimately, it’s all about shared experience.

  • To say that an abstract concept like ‘love’ exists is to say that the word ‘love’ has an agreed-upon meaning that most of us can recognise and identify well enough to apply the word correctly.
  • To say that a concrete noun like ‘cats’ exist is to say that there is at least one thing which we would recognise and agree to call a ‘cat’.
  • To say that the Eiffel Tower exists is to say that we can do things with and to the Eiffel Tower that we can’t do with, say, Hogwarts. We can touch it, climb it, taste it, smell it, hit it and listen to the sound, and — this is important — agree afterwards about the results of what we did.
  • And the same applies to named entities. We can agree that Barack Obama exists and Harry Potter doesn’t, because it’s possible to have a shared experience of Barack Obama that people will agree about the details of.
 

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