Student turnout is apalling

Current students: Please don't take this personally.

A lot of us "old timers" who were in school when CA was foisted upon us are still bitter about it. Mostly because when it started, it was run by opportunistic, fun-hating resume-padding douchebags, and we were forced into it when we would have rather been our usual ball of drunken rowdy obscene Cyclone support.

The mere mention of the name "Charles Fisher" is enough to send some of us over the edge.

Still ran by the same kind of people.
 
..it was run by opportunistic, fun-hating resume-padding douchebags...

Just a random question I've thought about. What benefit does one get from putting student section leader on a resume? I guess someone has to come up with a budget for Cyclone Alley and do accounting type work and they send emails out so that's like marketing? But seriously, what kind a hiring manager is going to say, "Hey, this dude handed out bandanas and sat in the first row at basketball games, lets hire him for sure." Especially if anyone asked about results, which should be a common follow up. "Oh, you're organization isn't very popular among students or non-student fans? Less than 40% of students who buy tickets actually show up to the games? (It's probably not fair to blame CA for lack of attendance, but that's how a lot of people feel.) Seems like the work you're doing is really paying off." I'd guess most kids who do it, do it for fun, or perks, or to be with friends (or maybe status/power) more than as a resume builder, but to me it seems like a waste of time.

If Cyclone Alley leaders are raking in some of the fee money, I guess that would be an incentive, but I think a lot of people would have a problem with that.

For the record, I have both paid for Cyclone Alley and got tickets without paying for Cyclone Alley for a season. If they did a bus to an away men's game (probably at least $40 deal just for that one trip, which would cover the $30+$5 or 10 they charged for the bus), I considered my investment worthwhile, otherwise not so much. *Note, I will say that if you add up the costs of all the free stuff you get during a season, it is surely at or above the fee, it's just that I'd rather have $30 than all of that stuff.
 
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Just a random question I've thought about. What benefit does one get from putting student section leader on a resume? I guess someone has to come up with a budget for Cyclone Alley and do accounting type work and they send emails out so that's like marketing? But seriously, what kind a hiring manager is going to say, "Hey, this dude handed out bandanas and sat in the first row at basketball games, lets hire him for sure." Especially if anyone asked about results, which should be a common follow up. "Oh, you're organization isn't very popular among students or non-student fans? Less than 40% of students who buy tickets actually show up to the games? (It's probably not fair to blame CA for lack of attendance, but that's how a lot of people feel.) Seems like the work you're doing is really paying off." I'd guess most kids who do it, do it for fun, or perks, or to be with friends (or maybe status/power) more than as a resume builder, but to me it seems like a waste of time.

If Cyclone Alley leaders are raking in some of the fee money, I guess that would be an incentive, but I think a lot of people would have a problem with that.

For the record, I have both paid for Cyclone Alley and got tickets without paying for Cyclone Alley for a season. If they did a bus to an away men's game (probably at least $40 deal just for that one trip, which would cover the $30+$5 or 10 they charged for the bus), I considered my investment worthwhile, otherwise not so much. *Note, I will say that if you add up the costs of all the free stuff you get during a season, it is surely at or above the fee, it's just that I'd rather have $30 than all of that stuff.

It is literally just leadership experience.
 
Just a random question I've thought about. What benefit does one get from putting student section leader on a resume? I guess someone has to come up with a budget for Cyclone Alley and do accounting type work and they send emails out so that's like marketing? But seriously, what kind a hiring manager is going to say, "Hey, this dude handed out bandanas and sat in the first row at basketball games, lets hire him for sure." Especially if anyone asked about results, which should be a common follow up. "Oh, you're organization isn't very popular among students or non-student fans? Less than 40% of students who buy tickets actually show up to the games? (It's probably not fair to blame CA for lack of attendance, but that's how a lot of people feel.) Seems like the work you're doing is really paying off." I'd guess most kids who do it, do it for fun, or perks, or to be with friends (or maybe status/power) more than as a resume builder, but to me it seems like a waste of time.

If Cyclone Alley leaders are raking in some of the fee money, I guess that would be an incentive, but I think a lot of people would have a problem with that.

For the record, I have both paid for Cyclone Alley and got tickets without paying for Cyclone Alley for a season. If they did a bus to an away men's game (probably at least $40 deal just for that one trip, which would cover the $30+$5 or 10 they charged for the bus), I considered my investment worthwhile, otherwise not so much. *Note, I will say that if you add up the costs of all the free stuff you get during a season, it is surely at or above the fee, it's just that I'd rather have $30 than all of that stuff.

They don't even give out props anymore so even the $30 isn't worth it. Have to go to the games to get them. Break games and exhibition games don't count so I only have 9 or so points. (Even though I went to the Grand Valley game.) Used to get something every game and now I've just gotten a bandana and keep forgetting to get my glass. If I went to the women's games I'd get more stuff, but I just have the $99 mens tickets and not going to spend extra money to see women's games.
 
The students kick *** for football. Seriously. We have a great student section at Jack Trice. I sit catty-wompus from it, and its always going bat **** crazy.

Its not a "kids these days" thing. It's a "why do you buy tickets you don't use for basketball?" thing.

This pretty much sums it up. Could it be as simple as the students have a hard time getting motivated to do something that doesn't involve drinking? Maybe that is too strong. Maybe it is the party atmosphere that draws them and just a plain basketball (or football) game isn't enough to hold their interest other than a few marquee events.

It does seem that each generation requires more and more to be entertained. I can't imagine a teenager today sitting for an evening in front of a radio and be entertained like my parents and grandparents used to. I probably couldn't do that either, but I can watch ISU play Eastern Southern Not A Real State University play an entire basketball game without even looking at my phone.

Now you kids get off my damn grass!
 
This pretty much sums it up. Could it be as simple as the students have a hard time getting motivated to do something that doesn't involve drinking? Maybe that is too strong. Maybe it is the party atmosphere that draws them and just a plain basketball (or football) game isn't enough to hold their interest other than a few marquee events.

It does seem that each generation requires more and more to be entertained. I can't imagine a teenager today sitting for an evening in front of a radio and be entertained like my parents and grandparents used to. I probably couldn't do that either, but I can watch ISU play Eastern Southern Not A Real State University play an entire basketball game without even looking at my phone.

Now you kids get off my damn grass!

I once played Halo 3 for 25 hours straight. On a different occassion, I played Halo 3 for 10 hours straight standing up.
 
I broke the foot pedal in a couple of days and had my friend reinforce it with sheet metal, rofl.

It must have taken them a couple months to fix the pedal. We broke ours within a week and my roommate had to do some modifications too. We also broke the guitar but we sent it in and got a new one. Good thing we had another guitar from guitar hero or we might have trashed our apartment in anger.
 
i don't know if its been talked about in the thread or not, but i wish that the students that are at the games would be a little more into the game. I love the handful of students who come in costumes, have signs and cheer. But there are a lot more who just sit there and don't really do much standing up or cheering unless it's a nationally televised game.

One example on Wed was when the drumline, who sounded great btw, played the whoop whoop cadence, about 90% of the students just sat there and looked like zombies. i know we were down at half and had been a slow game to that point, but man it sucks seeing no enthusiasm.
 
This pretty much sums it up. Could it be as simple as the students have a hard time getting motivated to do something that doesn't involve drinking? Maybe that is too strong. Maybe it is the party atmosphere that draws them and just a plain basketball (or football) game isn't enough to hold their interest other than a few marquee events.

It does seem that each generation requires more and more to be entertained. I can't imagine a teenager today sitting for an evening in front of a radio and be entertained like my parents and grandparents used to. I probably couldn't do that either, but I can watch ISU play Eastern Southern Not A Real State University play an entire basketball game without even looking at my phone.

Now you kids get off my damn grass!

You can get drunk before basketball games. We did it for literally every game I attended as a student.
 
Just want it to officially be noted that I am also bashing the Music 102 student. He shouldn't "risk it to go see Tech", he should "skip to see ISU kick some butt". I'm lazy, was the test/class from 8p-10p?
 

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