Yeah the vulgarity is low hanging fruit...meh I get it and I'm sure I participated in it when I was at ISU. However, the creative ones are much better...especially when playing Iowa we had the "You need Caitlyn" chant. That was hilarious.
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Agree on creativity. Theres nothing better than a chant that is both insulting AND clever/funny. Plus i think its more distracting to the opponent.
Also, it makes ISU look better to the national audience. Would you rather be known as rowdy and nasty, or rowdy and hilarious?
But there absolutely is a time and place for the BULLsh!t chant, for particularly egregious calls. Its a classic for a reason...
I think it was just the BYU and/or Big 12 admin that asked them to remove the shirts.
BYU is very image-conscious. Otherwise people might think the school is weird.
But I have no special knowledge about the incident.
So when did Horns down somehow become a term treated like a racist/sexiest/homophobic term? How about we don't allow horns up then? Can't we all claim to be offended by it?
Growing up, my parents wouldn’t take me to our games vs Iowa or Nebraska until I hit a certain age because they knew I’d be exposed to a level of rowdiness I hadn’t seen before and learn some new words I probably shouldn’t be learning at that age. Not sure why people think this is suddenly something new with this new generation.
What gets me is how bad the student section is at distracting free throw shooters. Back when they were organized, they moved signs all together after the shooter released the ball which was beyond dumb as if that would somehow alter the ball in flight. BYU has it down. I thought the large colored sheets they were using for the visual illusion behind the basket should be illegal and removed by the officials. We're an engineering school, we could do better.
if parents want to protect their kids from anything then don't put them in a situation where that thing won't be prevalent. easy as that.
i dont goto a sushi restaurant and then ***** because theyre cutting raw sea food and im allergic.
i dont goto a sushi restaurant and then ***** because theyre cutting raw sea food and im allergic.
Interesting that everyone thinks that vulgarity is a sign of low intelligence or laziness. I've been hearing this for more than 20 years: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html
and apparently some smart people think it isn't just dummies that swear:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S038800011400151X?via=ihub
I wish the kids were more creative than F KU. F KU is an appropriate thing to say in almost all circumstances, but it does get old and I'm pretty sure that chant comes up once a game, every game.
Bull**** is totally appropriate when a call is blown. The officials have to be reminded by the home crowd when something is so obvious that they missed the call. That is one of the things that make home courts effective. And it is very hard to coordinate the chant, "excuse me sir referee, we, jointly, believe you mistakenly made the wrong call." Do the crowds get it wrong sometimes, yes. But, that simply doesn't matter. It doesn't keep other fanbases from doing it to us when we travel, does it?
In the 80s, we were not all together like they are now. We were 16 kids (If I recall correctly, usually 8 (or 12?) people you knew and and 8 (or 12?) other people from another group, distributed around the crowd in 4 different locations during the season. We were just as crass, said terrible things (far worse than any of those chants), but we didn't have the coordination, anonymity or mob mentality that that large of group can muster.
I don't remember what game it was, but I think somewhere in 1987, maybe the home game with Mizzou, I believe with Derrick Chievous (I remember wearing band aids along with the rest of the kids behind the bucket) where something happened and the students started chanting Bull**** and it was SO clear on the TV that the announcers said something to the affect of, "well, ISU IS an agricultural school, they'd know it when they see it." Seems to me that was one of the standard Big 8 announcers at the time, not Thompson though. That was about as coordinated as it got then.
So, let's not pick on the "kids of today" becuase it is more circumstance than some lack of better sense that makes them do what they do. Maybe we could just help their leaders figure out better quips that the rest of us would join in on. "Sit Down Norm" was a classic and the entire crowd got into that. It is a little like "Cyclone....Power", maybe if they lead something more palatable that the whole place came in on, they'd steer away from the lazier stuff.
OR, probably not.
and apparently some smart people think it isn't just dummies that swear:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S038800011400151X?via=ihub
I wish the kids were more creative than F KU. F KU is an appropriate thing to say in almost all circumstances, but it does get old and I'm pretty sure that chant comes up once a game, every game.
Bull**** is totally appropriate when a call is blown. The officials have to be reminded by the home crowd when something is so obvious that they missed the call. That is one of the things that make home courts effective. And it is very hard to coordinate the chant, "excuse me sir referee, we, jointly, believe you mistakenly made the wrong call." Do the crowds get it wrong sometimes, yes. But, that simply doesn't matter. It doesn't keep other fanbases from doing it to us when we travel, does it?
In the 80s, we were not all together like they are now. We were 16 kids (If I recall correctly, usually 8 (or 12?) people you knew and and 8 (or 12?) other people from another group, distributed around the crowd in 4 different locations during the season. We were just as crass, said terrible things (far worse than any of those chants), but we didn't have the coordination, anonymity or mob mentality that that large of group can muster.
I don't remember what game it was, but I think somewhere in 1987, maybe the home game with Mizzou, I believe with Derrick Chievous (I remember wearing band aids along with the rest of the kids behind the bucket) where something happened and the students started chanting Bull**** and it was SO clear on the TV that the announcers said something to the affect of, "well, ISU IS an agricultural school, they'd know it when they see it." Seems to me that was one of the standard Big 8 announcers at the time, not Thompson though. That was about as coordinated as it got then.
So, let's not pick on the "kids of today" becuase it is more circumstance than some lack of better sense that makes them do what they do. Maybe we could just help their leaders figure out better quips that the rest of us would join in on. "Sit Down Norm" was a classic and the entire crowd got into that. It is a little like "Cyclone....Power", maybe if they lead something more palatable that the whole place came in on, they'd steer away from the lazier stuff.
OR, probably not.
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go **** yourself you stupid ******* piece of ****. i hope you ******* choke on your own **** and die
I was just as guilty as a student of participating in the chants but now as a parent with young kids I also see the negative side of it too. Don't really have hard stance on this issue either way because it's not like telling the students to stop it will do anything other than them doing it even more.
We used to have a vulgar chant towards the refs that involved a certain act with sheep and the 2nd half of that chant saying "the sheep said no." Would love to see some more creative chants other than the simple "F (fill in the blank!)"
We used to have a vulgar chant towards the refs that involved a certain act with sheep and the 2nd half of that chant saying "the sheep said no." Would love to see some more creative chants other than the simple "F (fill in the blank!)"
On one hand, I agree that it isn't very creative or clever and the funniest stuff doesn't need it. The student section chanting "ROGAINE" at Greg Brunner in 2005 is to this day the funniest chant I've heard at a game.
But it's not always about being funny. The "F*CK __opponent here____" chant isn't creative, but it definitely creates an air of hostility. I absolutely participated in those chants as a student and I still smirk when I hear it, and think "the kids are alright".
The student section's job is to get under the opponent's skin.
But it's not always about being funny. The "F*CK __opponent here____" chant isn't creative, but it definitely creates an air of hostility. I absolutely participated in those chants as a student and I still smirk when I hear it, and think "the kids are alright".
The student section's job is to get under the opponent's skin.
I have a young child too, and would not participate in a chant like that in front of her, but it doesn't really give me pause to bring her to a big game when she's ready, either. That language is part of life and she'll hear it from kids at school by then anyhow.
Well...... I'm not sure I have even gone THAT far. The last part of the sentence is probably not appropriate or really called for. However, I'm pretty sure the combination of words in the first sentence have left my lips a "number" of times aimed at any number of refs, coaches, players, etc. since the early 80s.
Toward the officials It is usually combined with my keen insight as to why they were incorrect in their call and a "kind" request to pick up their "game". I have been told I am making no difference to the actual officiating of the game, but deep down I know they are listening.
Mitch also made comments after that game about how the crowd got to him. Good 'ol Chuck McGary
There are a lot of things in this world I'm worried about my kid seeing and hearing. Swear words are pretty low on that list.
The intro claps without the "You Suck" was way cooler and more intimidating imo. You'll get 3 claps as a sign of respect, and that's it.
Does West Virginia still distribute a little newsletter that has personal information about a particular player on the visiting team? I thought that was high caliber support of distraction from a student section.
OK we brought horns down into this, so I'm going to ask. Why do you get to make a sign when you do things well and basically taunt the other team. But if your opposition flashes an anti-sign, they are more disrespectful than the original sign throwers. Both three a sign to say something without talking. I don't understand the difference.
Where do people get off being so hypocritical. If you're going to make up some stupid thing to try to show your greatness or whatever, you've got to be able to handle it being thrown back in your face.
It's like after 15 years of getting, "stop hitting yourself", from a big brother and then you get bigger and kick his ass and then he goes and tell dad you started something AND she somehow listens to him. The correct dad response is, if you couldn't handle getting your a kicked, you probably shouldn't have started it.
These idiots need to grow a pair.
They can't be gone soon enough.
Where do people get off being so hypocritical. If you're going to make up some stupid thing to try to show your greatness or whatever, you've got to be able to handle it being thrown back in your face.
It's like after 15 years of getting, "stop hitting yourself", from a big brother and then you get bigger and kick his ass and then he goes and tell dad you started something AND she somehow listens to him. The correct dad response is, if you couldn't handle getting your a kicked, you probably shouldn't have started it.
These idiots need to grow a pair.
They can't be gone soon enough.