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Quote from Blalock (from Stinson) in today's paper



“I talked to Curtis on the phone midway through the second round,â€￾ Blalock said. “He said that it was unbelievable what was going on. He’ll be all right. I’ll be all right, too.â€￾



No, Curtis it's not crazy, your team had a subpar season and didn't make any post season play. You should have came back for your Senior year and raised your stock.
 
What is unbelievable is that Stinson thought that he would get drafted. He is undersized for a shooting guard. He is not a great ball handler for a point guard. He is not a great passer. He is not a good shooter at all. He typically has a poor attitude. He is not a very good on-ball defender. He doesn't make players around him better. Not sure what advice he was getting....
 
Let it go... They wanted to go make some money. Playing Basketball every day and getting paid wouldn't be a bad way to go. Especially when you have others to support. NBA or overseas they still get paid, and paid well.
 
No kidding. He listened to some stupid hack of a agent and voila!



I still wish we had him and Will back for next year. They could have raised their stock considerably.
 
I suspect that both Stinson and Blaylock had agents telling them how good they were, and that they were a lock for the early second round. The unfortunate situation for both of them is that a year under Greg McDermott would have done wonders for them getting drafted next year with better fundimentals and defence.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JJ4ISU @ 06-29-06 4:14 pm) [post=6023]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> What is unbelievable is that Stinson thought that he would get drafted. He is undersized for a shooting guard. He is not a great ball handler for a point guard. He is not a great passer. He is not a good shooter at all. He typically has a poor attitude. He is not a very good on-ball defender. He doesn't make players around him better. Not sure what advice he was getting.... [/b][/quote]



I doubt you would be saying this if he was returning for his senior season. Stinson is a solid basketball player who is really motivated to succeed. Please lay the bitterness aside.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JJ4ISU @ 06-29-06 3:14 pm) [post=6023]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> What is unbelievable is that Stinson thought that he would get drafted. He is undersized for a shooting guard. He is not a great ball handler for a point guard. He is not a great passer. He is not a good shooter at all. He typically has a poor attitude. He is not a very good on-ball defender. He doesn't make players around him better. Not sure what advice he was getting.... [/b][/quote]



You better check stinson's stats before making claims like that. He nearly had as many assists during his time here at ISU as Blalock. He did well in Steals too. He was also the teams best rebounder (although that may speak more towards our lack of big men than anything else).



I'm sure Bryceman can enlighten you with stats. He always has the stats handy
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JJ4ISU @ 06-29-06 4:14 pm) [post=6023]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> What is unbelievable is that Stinson thought that he would get drafted. He is undersized for a shooting guard. He is not a great ball handler for a point guard. He is not a great passer. He is not a good shooter at all. He typically has a poor attitude. He is not a very good on-ball defender. He doesn't make players around him better. Not sure what advice he was getting.... [/b][/quote]

I wish we could ban these types of "Cyclone fans" into some bitter darkness.

Like, being forced to root for the Huskers.
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People sell Curtis too short. He acrtually was getting better at shooting, his decision making was fairly good until he got too gfar behind in games, he worked the fast break well, he has a second gear that he uses sometimes, he jumps 28 inches, he is muscular and can break through a crowd, he can shoot the tear drop. Yes, he is not classy, but he gets the job done. WM let him do his own thing, yet under another coach like Rick Carlisle we might see another side of Curtis. He has big heart and he is willing to take the tough shot. He can rebound beytter than Will because he follows the ball. He can slap the ball away from players inside on a double team. I do not think he was forced to play that much defense as our big guys were so pathetic last year that he had to help out. If McD does anything, he needs to get the bigs to take charges and to make some hard fouls. We do not want to be called the Too Soft Clones. Curtis is not as athletic as Will, but he can get the job done. I know his shooting will pass Tinsleys perimeter shooting very soon. Yes, he is only 6-3. Most of the early guards were 6-5. I also believe he can pass the ball very well. And he is strong in the upper bbody. GO CURTIS.
 
I wasn't try to start a Stinson bashing thread. He's a hell off a player just wasn't ready for the NBA in my opinion.

What is mean of me is that I'm happy he was proved wrong. Horrible I know, but can't help it.
 
ill start a stinson bashing thread, he does blow at passing,yeah he put up good stats and so did mike gansey so did pitsnoggle there not getting drafted because there not good nba prospects, hes like eric crouch yeah he put up great stats in college, i doubt hed ever do anything in the pros, if curtis was coming back next year id pray he wasnt the leader of the team, that guy is a poor leader, a poor shooter,he never really ever improved himself,his bests years were when some1 else was the leader like,vromen,homen,or sullivan.
 
I, for one, think it will be interesting to see Curt as a role player instead of the star. He was probably the best player on the team last, and WM let him go do what he wanted with the team and with himself and how he played. I think that if Stinson is a role player, his positives would show more and his negatives would be hiden a lot better. The ability to pull in a board (+) and the cluthch, winners mentality(+) will show as a backup or as a lesser-known player. But things like bad decision-making late in games(-) wouldnt be an issue because he wouldnt likely be the one the team would go to. I think if a team gives stinson the chance he deserves, he could turn some heads.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zach379 @ 06-29-06 10:08 pm) [post=6060]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> ill start a stinson bashing thread, he does blow at passing,yeah he put up good stats and so did mike gansey so did pitsnoggle there not getting drafted because there not good nba prospects, hes like eric crouch yeah he put up great stats in college, i doubt hed ever do anything in the pros, if curtis was coming back next year id pray he wasnt the leader of the team, that guy is a poor leader, a poor shooter,he never really ever improved himself,his bests years were when some1 else was the leader like,vromen,homen,or sullivan.
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You're absolutely right! Anyone who tries to hang the "he didn't have any big guys" excuse is drunk. There was no leadership and no heart. Frankly, he never made anyone around him better. Yeah its been said before and should be said again. And again. You can also blame that WM enabled him to be that way....but he and all the others who transferred 'came to play for WM' and play And-1 ball. Which, everyone pay attention here, isn't the kind of basketball that succeeds in winning unless you have early-90's UNLV ball....and our hired guns were not THAT talented.

Net, thanks for that magical NIT run (ha!) and the 1 NCAA tourney. Have a wonderful life.
 
Season Averages
SEASON MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
2003-2004 35.1 16.2 6.0 4.3 3.8 1.13 1.7 . 2 2.4 .479 .658 .288 1.17
2004-2005 35.6 17.2 5.5 4.5 3.2 1.39 2.3 .1 2.9 .438 .694 .256 1.16
2005-2006 35.6 19.4 5.2 5.5 3.4 1.61 2.4 .0 2.9. 455 .664 .339 1.18

Season TotalsRebounds
SEASON GP MIN FG FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA PTS OFF DEF TOT AST TO STL BLK PF
2003-2004 33 1159 219 457 79 120 17 59 534 70 129 199 143 27 55 6 79
2004-2005 31 1104 202 461 109 157 21 82 534 44 126 170 139 100 72 4 90
2005-2006 30 1069 224 492 93 140 42 124 583 58 97 155 166 103 73 0 87



No blocks for 06. Assists went up, rebounding went down,
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bryceman @ 06-30-06 8:19 am) [post=6101]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> Season AveragesSEASONMINPTSREBASTTOA/TSTLBLKPFFG%FT%3P%PPS2003-200435.116.26.04.33.81.131.7.22.4.479.658.2881.172004-200535.617.25.54.53.21.392.3.12.9.438.694.2561.162005-200635.619.45.25.53.41.612.4.02.9.455.664.3391.18Season TotalsRebounds SEASONGPMINFGFGAFTMFTA3PM3PAPTSOFFDEFTOTASTTOSTLBLKPF2003-200433115921945779120175953470129199143127556792004-2005311104202461109157218253444126170139100724902005-20063010692244929314042124583589715516610373087 [/b][/quote]



What is this in English? I am sure it's good info if unravelled.



Stinson bashers give it up. The way you guys are talking, he should have never made the ISU practice team. He had issues, but anyone being coached by someone who doesn't know the meaning of the word discipline, let alone instill it solidly into practices and gameplay, is not going to succeed in the next level no matter how good they are. They might have done well under Gmac next year, but you know what, we'll never know.... I am going to wish both Stinson and Blalock good luck in the future and focus my attention to our current team...



Go Cyclones
 
I agree....this pile-on former players if they did not meet expectations is a little disturbing. Once a Clone always a Clone....there are fatter targets out there to fire shots at (Berryman anyone?) While not attaining certain goals...Stinson was a good person on campus and will always be a part of ISU history.
 
Please don't misinterpret my support for Curtis as support for WM. I'm glad WM is no longer here. But I also think, no matter who the coach is\was, Curtis was a great player. He played in the Big XII conference, not conference USA, and still was one of the top scorers, steal leaders, and assist leaders in the league.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(monkeybrow @ 06-30-06 8:46 am) [post=6109]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> I agree....this pile-on former players if they did not meet expectations is a little disturbing. Once a Clone always a Clone....there are fatter targets out there to fire shots at (Berryman anyone?) While not attaining certain goals...Stinson was a good person on campus and will always be a part of ISU history. [/b][/quote]



No kidding. What good does it do to bash those guys? I think they'll both latch on to an NBA team. Both WM and CS have some faults to their game, but they should be able to contribute at the end of an NBA bench and make a good check doing it.



Does anyone think that they will come back to Ames ever or give to the program with the way that everyone treated them??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bmuff @ 06-30-06 8:58 am) [post=6112]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Does anyone think that they will come back to Ames ever or give to the program with the way that everyone treated them??
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No crap. Jesus, and sometimes people wonder why we don't see former players in Ames... EVER. With fans like these I wouldn't come back either.

Edit: For a guy that never had any academic or off the field problems and showed up playing hurt for much of his career (including the torn ligaments in his finger year) he is getting absolutely ground into the pavement by you guys. It's really pathetic. Whether him leaving early was good for him or not is a moot point now that he's gone. Undoubtedly we wanted more out of Curtis and Will, and out of Morgan. The fact that Morgan couldn't win with these guys or get them to improve themselves and others on the team shows just how inept he was as a coach. People love guys like Nik Moser, but that guy made himself academically ineligible once. Whether you liked him or the way he played, Stinson showed up ready to rumble every game and I am not going to ask anything more from a guy. Do I think that his decision making could have used improvement at times or that his jawing got annoying? Well of course. But that is stuff the coach should address, and Wayne didn't do that.

It may also seem like I'm ripping Wayne hard here...and maybe I am. The guy got paid a million a year to take care of this crap though, so I expect it to be done.
 
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