Steele Jantz

The inability to complete some long balls will make the conference season brutal for ISU. Some how, some way, ISU has to start completing some of those.

not saying Steele couldn't have made better throws, but don't completely forget about the wind.
 
Definitely, 100%. It seemed that the play calling didn't really help him out in the second half.

I need to rewatch the game on the DVR and evaluate a little better, but it sure seemed like there were a lot of rollouts to the left side and very bland play selections. It also seemed like we were trying to squeeze the ball into Horne a lot in the middle of the field in the red zone - I'd like to see some bigger targets down there like Brun and maybe Tiller.
 
A lot of posters don't know more than the basics of football. So, when the offense is doing great it's because the QB and when the offense is struggling.... It's because of the QB.

Jantz, besides his last INT, played well today. Our play calling went conservative and we left him in some tough situations. He's getting better folks. Just chill

Agreed...
 
A lot of posters don't know more than the basics of football. So, when the offense is doing great it's because the QB and when the offense is struggling.... It's because of the QB.

Jantz, besides his last INT, played well today. Our play calling went conservative and we left him in some tough situations. He's getting better folks. Just chill

I still don't understand why we let off the gas pedal. Iowa's defense was GASSED and we decided it was time to slow our tempo. Then every time we get 3rd and less than 2, just go ahead and pencil in the zone read and shockingly the defensive linemen were standing in the backfield tackling both the QB and the RB.

Exactly... We need to have an i form just for goal line situations... The spread from the 2 yard line is just plain dumb...
 
I don't know if it's totally on SJ's shoulders, but when the offense is inside the 20 about five times*, has a major field-position advantage for much of the game (especially the entire 3Q), and you get only one FG after a smooth-looking opening TD drive, you won't beat many teams.


Fortunately, one of those teams was Iowa 2012.


*Jantz blew two of those chances on his own (keeping ball too long on read-option, and fumbling; and forced throw for INT at the goal line).
 
A lot of posters don't know more than the basics of football. So, when the offense is doing great it's because the QB and when the offense is struggling.... It's because of the QB.

Jantz, besides his last INT, played well today. Our play calling went conservative and we left him in some tough situations. He's getting better folks. Just chill

I think I agree with you quite a bit...but I don't this time. Steele played a very very bad game. You can't make the mistakes(turnovers) he is making if we expect to win, it just won't happen.

- He connected on zero long balls and missed 1 or 2 receivers who were wide open.

- The picks he threw were brutal. The D didn't even have to make a play, he just threw it RIGHT to them. At least Vandeburg can take some solace that Knott just made a miracle play on his interception.

I'm not calling to bench him, but in no way can you say he played well.
 
Lack of a consistent running game made it tough on Jantz today. This is no different for any QB, ask Vandenberg about it. Jantz is the best guy to play QB for this team.
 
Lack of a consistent running game made it tough on Jantz today. This is no different for any QB, ask Vandenberg about it. Jantz is the best guy to play QB for this team.


and to add to this iowa prepared well for the read play, if you watch they were usually on the jantz and the rb making the decision on to keep it or give it pretty difficult.... no excuse though, gotta clean it up from this point on... but jantz is definitely THE GUY..
 
I think I agree with you quite a bit...but I don't this time. Steele played a very very bad game. You can't make the mistakes(turnovers) he is making if we expect to win, it just won't happen.

- He connected on zero long balls and missed 1 or 2 receivers who were wide open.

- The picks he threw were brutal. The D didn't even have to make a play, he just threw it RIGHT to them. At least Vandeburg can take some solace that Knott just made a miracle play on his interception.


I'm not calling to bench him, but in no way can you say he played well.

The underlines are what bother me. The picks because this how he started to play right before he got benched last year BUT Im still out till I see him in two more games.

What really really REALLY bothers me were the 3 long balls that had he hit his receiver in stride would have been TDs. Any one of those would result in the game being blown wide open.

This has been one of my biggest ******* of all our ISU qbs that I have got to watch, they cant hit the open deep receiver in stride!! Damn, imagine what a deep threat would do for the o!
 
...and maybe he's just not a deep throw threat or great passer. If that's the case I can accept it, won't like it, but if he can make it up with his feet, okay.
 
He hit Lenz deep last week. 1-4 on deep balls isn't bad. Too bad he didn't get hit while throwing one of these or it may have connected.
 
He hit Lenz deep last week. 1-4 on deep balls isn't bad. Too bad he didn't get hit while throwing one of these or it may have connected.

I would love to be wrong and hope he can tweak his timing. Our WR's were getting open deep and we need to capitalize on that.
 
A lot of posters don't know more than the basics of football. So, when the offense is doing great it's because the QB and when the offense is struggling.... It's because of the QB.

Jantz, besides his last INT, played well today. Our play calling went conservative and we left him in some tough situations. He's getting better folks. Just chill

It wasn't just the last int. (which was a horrible mistake). If you know football, then you know that Steele is 1.5 years into running our offense and still isn't effectively running the zone read. I saw him make the wrong read several times today, which resulted in stuffed runs rather than effective gains. People want to rip on Mess, but any playcalling is going to look bad if the execution isn't there. I'm not sure how we take advantage of our awesome talant at RB if the QB can't effectively run our main running offense. This is a huge problem that cannot be ignored. And you are also overlooking several deep balls that were wide open, but missed. We should all enjoy the win, but definitely need to get this stuff turned around before the B12.
 
It wasn't just the last int. (which was a horrible mistake). If you know football, then you know that Steele is 1.5 years into running our offense and still isn't effectively running the zone read. I saw him make the wrong read several times today, which resulted in stuffed runs rather than effective gains. People want to rip on Mess, but any playcalling is going to look bad if the execution isn't there. I'm not sure how we take advantage of our awesome talant at RB if the QB can't effectively run our main running offense. This is a huge problem that cannot be ignored. And you are also overlooking several deep balls that were wide open, but missed. We should all enjoy the win, but definitely need to get this stuff turned around before the B12.

Last week he had the same problems (think the td run that white could have had one play earlier while walking into the endzone but jantz pulled it out). But I will watch a hope.
 
It wasn't just the last int. (which was a horrible mistake). If you know football, then you know that Steele is 1.5 years into running our offense and still isn't effectively running the zone read. I saw him make the wrong read several times today, which resulted in stuffed runs rather than effective gains. People want to rip on Mess, but any playcalling is going to look bad if the execution isn't there. I'm not sure how we take advantage of our awesome talant at RB if the QB can't effectively run our main running offense. This is a huge problem that cannot be ignored. And you are also overlooking several deep balls that were wide open, but missed. We should all enjoy the win, but definitely need to get this stuff turned around before the B12.

You saw him make the wrong read while you were sitting on your couch drinking beer. He made a read with 250 lb players running at him.

I was at the game. Nothing in the running game was open all day. Our line was miserable in run blocking. It didn't matter if Jantz kept it or gave it. And FYI, not every run is a zone read
 
I'm enjoying the hell out of this win and don't want to rain on any parades, but Steele Jantz has never started a game for Iowa State and finished with zero turnovers. I have a difficult time blaming the play calling.
He's also never started a game healthy and lost. Yes, he makes poor decisions at times, but he's the best QB on this roster and he wins.
 
If Steele would have maintained his play from the first half, it would be all "Man of Steele" Threads, well - that would be hard to do, the turnovers are my only issue, need to get the unforced picks out of his game - if he can do that - Iowa State can win 7-8 games this year
 
It's not the throws that he misses it is his decision making. He needs to decide to run quicker. He needs to stop trying to make the home run play every play. Oh yeah he also needs to stop throwing to the other team.
 
You saw him make the wrong read while you were sitting on your couch drinking beer. He made a read with 250 lb players running at him. I was at the game. Nothing in the running game was open all day. Our line was miserable in run blocking. It didn't matter if Jantz kept it or gave it. And FYI, not every run is a zone read
Hey leave that guy alone, I'm really enjoying his subtle hints at being a football mastermind. Of course, every proclimation he ever makes will be in hindsight.
 

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