Special Teams Coach?
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So you're saying some of those listed have over 20 and 30 years of ST coaching? That's like a whole career.
I think chart designate only total years of coaching, not specifically ST. (Although some might have done that for long terms). If I'm interpreting correctly.
Yes, this is correct. Wright just happens to have coached ST for all 6 years of his career.
There are coaches in this industry that have been teaching every aspect of special teams for years and years. If someone can come in and improve just one of the aspects you listed that'd be a big upgrade for this program
Yep. Special teams coordinator would be responsible for kick return coverage and assignments, onside kick assignments, punt coverages and fake FG/Punt schemes.
also, and in my opinion most important, would be making adjustments during the game in these areas.
AFAIK that is a BIG red flag. He has a continuing systematic issue that has been a big reason for a number of our losses over the last several years, and instead of addressing it he's blowing it off as "we've been unlucky".
No - we haven't been "unlucky", we've been uncoached in what needs to be done in those situations.
Right? We’ve actually been lucky… we could have lost a muffed punt near the end of the first half and put Baylor another TD up on us.
Even if they've been "unlucky" in those "inches", those inches are what make up his whole "winning in the margins" mantra.
I’ve been unlucky in my inches game for decades.
I'll agree that perhaps some of the special teams issues have been unlucky. The big one would be the Iowa game two years ago when the punt was muffed, because our guy was pushed into the returner. But I'm just not willing to discuss what luck has to do with the misfortune our special teams face when systematic issues are at the forefront, and appears to not have been addressed, especially when those very systematic issues have cost us games over the last 3 years.
Exactly. A time or two is unlucky, going on 4 years of poor special teams is a systemic failure. God I hope coach gets this figured out
Say what you want about Sean Snyder, the Snyder’s can flat out coach special teams. Imagine our program if we started winning games BECAUSE OF special teams instead of losing them.
Please hire a Special Teams Coach into your program Coach Campbell! It is time and the need to dedicate one individual to it is important. It is a fact you can look and say that 90% of the teams losses over the last 2-3 years have involved really poor/bad special teams play. Shore this up and you have a perennial top tier program actually in the Big12 Championship game every year! This has cost Cyclones early season losses (and a few late in season ones) that they otherwise would have won if just get good at covering on kickoffs and punts. I am not even talking kicking field goals here, just coverage play and punting the ball well consistently instead of one out of three good punts as is the case now. You want to win and get consistent at the "little" things to just put team over the top - improve Special Teams. Dedicate a full time coach to it and give it more time/focus in practice! Bye the way watching the returner player running backwards to field kicks over his shoulder causes a bit of pee to dribble in my pants every time I watch it! I don't really want to have to start wearing Depends to watch games from here on out, not yet at my late forties age anyway.
Thanks for being a great coach and turning this program around bye the way. I appreciate your passion to the university and your dedication to your profession and I realize I am just a fan venting. Feel free to drop me an email or chat note here though if you would like to explain to me why you don't have a dedicated Special Teams Coach when you have a minute. Improve Special Teams and run the table in the conference games to get back to Big12 Championship Game! All it will take I think as the rest of the team is solid in other phases! The fact that I am only complaining about one phase of an Iowa State Football Team speaks to the great job you have done here at Iowa State and I appreciate you, not to long ago Cyclone football was getting waxed in all phases of football play - not anymore thanks to you. My Cyclone Passion just drove me to write this note to you as I feel the "ONLY" thing keeping Cyclone Football from being championship material is poor special teams play three years running now. Thanks for reading and helping me to fix my dribble peeing my pants problem every special teams play while watching Iowa State Football!
Thanks for being a great coach and turning this program around bye the way. I appreciate your passion to the university and your dedication to your profession and I realize I am just a fan venting. Feel free to drop me an email or chat note here though if you would like to explain to me why you don't have a dedicated Special Teams Coach when you have a minute. Improve Special Teams and run the table in the conference games to get back to Big12 Championship Game! All it will take I think as the rest of the team is solid in other phases! The fact that I am only complaining about one phase of an Iowa State Football Team speaks to the great job you have done here at Iowa State and I appreciate you, not to long ago Cyclone football was getting waxed in all phases of football play - not anymore thanks to you. My Cyclone Passion just drove me to write this note to you as I feel the "ONLY" thing keeping Cyclone Football from being championship material is poor special teams play three years running now. Thanks for reading and helping me to fix my dribble peeing my pants problem every special teams play while watching Iowa State Football!
A dedicated special teams coach is a relatively new thing. Most teams went to this when the NCAA allowed another paid coach.
But just because a team doesn't have a dedicated special teams coach doesn't mean they don't have a special teams coach. Most teams have a assistant coach who is also in charge of a special teams unit.
For example-
LB coach may also be the punt team coach
RB coach may also be the kick off return team coach
WR coach may also be the punt return team coach
DB coach may also be the kick off team coach
etc.
When I played Coach Mike Woodley (OLB Coach also coached the kickers)
Watching the NFL today and not seeing more than 2 games decided by Special Teams.
I don't expect ISU to have a kicker who can go 28-30 on FGs but we shouldn't be giving up kick returns for TDs or losing 20 to 30 yards of field position every time we swap punts. Our ST problems are now obvious to even the casual ISU fan. We overlooked it in past years because Campbell kept winning and improving as the season went on. Can he do it again and get ISU back in the Big 12 Championship game? I would be thrilled if that were the case and even more thrilled (and shocked) if Special Teams started helping us win some games. I won't be holding my breath though. And I certainly think Campbell is going to have to start offering some honest answers to questions about the ST if they continue to stink.
I don't expect ISU to have a kicker who can go 28-30 on FGs but we shouldn't be giving up kick returns for TDs or losing 20 to 30 yards of field position every time we swap punts. Our ST problems are now obvious to even the casual ISU fan. We overlooked it in past years because Campbell kept winning and improving as the season went on. Can he do it again and get ISU back in the Big 12 Championship game? I would be thrilled if that were the case and even more thrilled (and shocked) if Special Teams started helping us win some games. I won't be holding my breath though. And I certainly think Campbell is going to have to start offering some honest answers to questions about the ST if they continue to stink.
Campbell should pull a Belichick the next time he is asked what he saw from our Special Teams. "Um. (long pause) Um. (long pause) I saw the same thing you saw."
That would be more honest than what we heard yesterday.
That would be more honest than what we heard yesterday.
