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BCClone said:
How about those buggies that look like a little car that people push their kids in? They have four wheels.
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usedcarguy said:
TAX THEM! lol
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I@ST1 said:
If you want them on the roads... they should be taxed and have a paid registration with the county. (I think all bikes should if you are riding them on the road).
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is this tax for the same reasons as automobiles or is this an "annoyance" tax that you would personally like to exact on people?
 
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Gossamer said:
i'm not arguing with you but that doesn't answer my question...i didn't ask about the rider...I asked about the mechanism. I am all for all people getting exercise, but your argument implies a certain age may not be appropriate to ride an e-bike.

but if i ride my electric moped at 11 mph on a bicycle path, is that any different than riding my ebike on the same path at 11 mph and not pedaling? And before you tell me there are ebikes that require pedaling, that's not accurate.
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I can answer that question. After some more research, it all boils down to whether the vehicle is defined as a motorized bicycle or a bicycle. The Legislature here in Iowa made that definition in 2006 with the 750 watt/20 mph maximum propulsion capability. In other words, if it fits the legal definition of a moped, then the answer is no as not all bikes with motors are defined as motorized bikes.

For more than you'll ever want to know about it:

 
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Gossamer said:
which I appreciate...however, both of what we're referring to can be found on "bicycle" trails rather than just the road.
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I don't have a problem with the kind that require pedaling unless they are exceeding safe speeds. My experience with those are with people who franklly wouldn't be riding at all without the power assist and they are essentially a normal cyclist. Healthy young people on an e-bike is weird. Unless they are doing some climbing and stuff. Mountain e-bikes are the **** if you use them to challenge yourself. Not a lot of challenge on a bike path.
 
usedcarguy said:
I can answer that question. After some more research, it all boils down to whether the vehicle is defined as a motorized bicycle or a bicycle. The Legislature here in Iowa made that definition in 2006 with the 750 watt/20 mph maximum propulsion capability. In other words, if it fits the legal definition of a moped, then the answer is no as not all bikes with motors are defined as motorized bikes.

For more than you'll ever want to know about it:

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750 watts is a big number and should be lowered. jmo.
 
Cydkar said:
I don't have a problem with the kind that require pedaling unless they are exceeding safe speeds. My experience with those are with people who franklly wouldn't be riding at all without the power assist and they are essentially a normal cyclist. Healthy young people on an e-bike is weird. Unless they are doing some climbing and stuff. Mountain e-bikes are the **** if you use them to challenge yourself. Not a lot of challenge on a bike path.
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totally agree...actually, with everything you wrote. it's a tough issue in some cases because there's always some ass hat who will ruin, at the very least, the perception for most.
 
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Cydkar said:
I agree and think they should be taxed proportionate to the damage they do to the roads. I'd say $.01 per year. That's rounded up.
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I’m more concerned about the registration than an actual tax. Again... I’d just like to see everything be fair.
 
I@ST1 said:
If you want them on the roads... they should be taxed and have a paid registration with the county. (I think all bikes should if you are riding them on the road).
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Pretty sure I pay more taxes than you without a paid registration.
 
It’s a tough question. Limiting by speed on trails would impact plenty of people on road bikes, 18-20 is an average speed for a group ride. Get any wind behind you and you can easily hit much higher speeds. That said, those types of riders are generally very aware of who else is on the trail. Not sure I see that same level of attention with e-bikes
 
CascadeClone said:
I am 98% sure my former BIL got an OWI on a lawn tractor.

That was AFTER the cops escorted him from the bar to home for being drunk and disorderly. He got on the tractor to drive back to the bar. Oddly, the cops did not appreciate that clever move.
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Your former BIL must have been a tavern Hok...
 
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