Someone Help Me...

[JP4CY]

If you want them on the roads... they should be taxed and have a paid registration with the county. (I think all bikes should if you are riding them on the road).

A safe registration % that I have noticed is 1% per $1000 vehicle cost. My $50k SUV is roughly 500 a year.
So a bike that costs $1000 is going to cost 10 bucks to register. Is that worth that hassle? The bike will cause less road damage, so I don't see why it should be a larger %.

 

[CoachHines3]

I passed a guy a few years ago in his 20s smoking a cigarette while the bike did all the work. It didn't bother me too much.

oh man that was you? shoulda stopped and chatted

 

[I@ST1]

And when there's no sidewalks?

I would question why you are walking that route.

 

[JP4CY]

You have happier home owners.

Windsor homeowners are fighting it/kids have to walk in the street.

I personally don't mind the sidewalk in front of our house but I live in suburbia where its used. A lot of phone/distracted drivers out there.

 

[JP4CY]

I would question why you are walking that route.

Bus stops, strollers, wheelchairs, kids, dog walkers, etc. **** em I guess.

 

[BCClone]

Windsor homeowners are fighting it/kids have to walk in the street.

I personally don't mind the sidewalk in front of our house but I live in suburbia where its used. A lot of phone/distracted drivers out there.

I’m in a smaller town. In our area, (newest development) no one puts them in. In the block and half long street I live on, there are only 3 houses combined on both sides. City owns the development area next to us so they would be forced to pony up for them, plus snow removal if they enforced it. I don’t see anybody use the sidewalks where there are ones anyhow. Larger cities it does make sense.

 

[Clonehomer]

A safe registration % that I have noticed is 1% per $1000 vehicle cost. My $50k SUV is roughly 500 a year.
So a bike that costs $1000 is going to cost 10 bucks to register. Is that worth that hassle? The bike will cause less road damage, so I don't see why it should be a larger %.

My $500 trailer costs around $40 per year. So it is worth it for that, so I'd imagine they'd want their money for ebikes as well.

To me, the bigger thing is at what point they're going to require brake lights, turn signals, and flags. So few people use or even know hand signals that regular road travel at automobile speeds will lead to a lot more accidents and death.

 

[I@ST1]

A safe registration % that I have noticed is 1% per $1000 vehicle cost. My $50k SUV is roughly 500 a year.
So a bike that costs $1000 is going to cost 10 bucks to register. Is that worth that hassle? The bike will cause less road damage, so I don't see why it should be a larger %.

I think it would be worth the hassle.

With your thought process... A nice used moped can be purchased for less than $1000 and those gave to be registered. (I’m assuming they don’t cause much damage either).

I guess... I just like to see things equal for all.

 

[JP4CY]

I’m in a smaller town. In our area, (newest development) no one puts them in. In the block and half long street I live on, there are only 3 houses combined on both sides. City owns the development area next to us so they would be forced to pony up for them, plus snow removal if they enforced it. I don’t see anybody use the sidewalks where there are ones anyhow. Larger cities it does make sense.

Size of city/school proximity definitely does make differences.

 

[Clonehomer]

I’m in a smaller town. In our area, (newest development) no one puts them in. In the block and half long street I live on, there are only 3 houses combined on both sides. City owns the development area next to us so they would be forced to pony up for them, plus snow removal if they enforced it. I don’t see anybody use the sidewalks where there are ones anyhow. Larger cities it does make sense.

Surprised there are still cities or towns out there without that in code for new developments. I get grandfathered developments, but I don't understand why you don't put them in for new builds. They do improve safety significantly.

 

[JP4CY]

I think it would be worth the hassle.

With your thought process... A nice used moped can be purchased for less than $1000 and those gave to be registered. (I’m assuming they don’t cause much damage either).

I guess... I just like to see things equal for all.

Fair enough and that's your opinion and we can differ.

 

[I@ST1]

Bus stops, strollers, wheelchairs, kids, dog walkers, etc. **** em I guess.

umm... your statement does not address my comment. Idiot.

 

[JP4CY]

Surprised there are still cities or towns out there without that in code for new developments. I get grandfathered developments, but I don't understand why you don't put them in for new builds. They do improve safety significantly.

ADA, the sidewalk bump aprons, etc are a huge deal now a days.

 

[JP4CY]

umm... your statement does not address my comment. Idiot.

Idiot for wondering about those options when theres no sidewalks? Classy.

 

[I@ST1]

Idiot for wondering about those options when theres no sidewalks? Classy.

Hahaha.. did you even read my comment??

My comment was - I’d question why they were taking a route with no sidewalk.

 

[BCClone]

Surprised there are still cities or towns out there without that in code for new developments. I get grandfathered developments, but I don't understand why you don't put them in for new builds. They do improve safety significantly.

With smaller towns (5k or smaller is what I’m familiar with). Owners don’t want them. Don’t want to contend with them and deal with upkeep. Also, the houses in my backyard have them and even the people on that street walk in the streets when they walk somewhere. In smaller towns, getting people to keep their houses repaired how they should is usually paid through the government, so it would just be another expense for the city if they did.

 

[JP4CY]

Hahaha.. did you even read my comment??

My comment was - I’d question why they were taking a route with no sidewalk.

Yeah, I'm not going to continue to try and explain this over and over to you.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Windsor homeowners are fighting it/kids have to walk in the street.

I personally don't mind the sidewalk in front of our house but I live in suburbia where its used. A lot of phone/distracted drivers out there.

Only a couple of streets with sidewalks in my hood, on two collectors and at the school a mile away from my digs. Good thing is the street layout doesn't have many direct route "through" streets and they were designed with a decent width. State recently allowed residential street limits to be determined by the city and not default to the minimum 30 mph. Some cities opting for 20 or 25 mph on the side streets now. I think 20 is too slow, it's hard to drive 20 mph but 25 isn't so bad for a few blocks.

The only bad design decision, IMHO, is a couple blocks from me on one of the Mpls parkways. Years ago they narrowed the parkway with the idea of making it less of a thoroughfare. Posted it at 25 mph and added a separate bike trail/path adjacent to it. Problem is people still drive 40 mph on the narrow street and the trail is too congested for riding at road bike speed. Bikes going 20 mph should be in the parkway but it's really too narrow now and the ruts and pot holes along the shoulder really make it unbikable suicide run.

 

[cycloner29]

Iowa Code § 321.1(40)(c) defines a bicycle as either human powered two-wheeled with at least one saddle or “[a] device having two or three wheels with fully operable pedals and an electric motor of less than seven hundred fifty watts (one horsepower), whose maximum speed on a paved level surface, when powered solely by such a motor while ridden, is less than twenty miles per hour.”

So I guess there are restrictions in Iowa. But, a quick search on the local bike shop's website shows a few bikes with a max assisted speed nice the 20 mph limit.

Is it safe to assume that a bicycle is also classified as a vehicle since they have to pay attention to the rules of the road? I would also guess since a lot of us ride trails where bars are stops along the way where one could potentially get ticketed for OWI or DUI if they are classified as a vehicle.

Since trails go through different counties, local laws would change each time you entered. What a crazy world we live in!

 

[JP4CY]

Ha. F off, dude. I know what I stated and you came back with something completely different..

By the way - I’m not against sidewalks.

You have issues if you need to call someone an idiot and tell them to F off if it's a simple discussion when they said fair enough to your opinion.
Later.