Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

[YeahBuddy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_McCaffery

McCaffery and his wife Margaret have four children: Sons Connor, Patrick and Jack

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1246&path=mbball

Family Wife, Margaret
Sons, Connor, Patrick and Jonathan Francis
Daughter, Marit Katherine

 

[CyTwins]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_McCaffery

McCaffery and his wife Margaret have four children: Sons Connor, Patrick and Jack

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1246&path=mbball

Family Wife, Margaret
Sons, Connor, Patrick and Jonathan Francis
Daughter, Marit Katherine

Thought Patrick was the youngest and I thought he was supposed to be the best. He'll be lucky to be in the top 150 by his Senior year if he goes the same path as Connor

 

[srjclone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_McCaffery

McCaffery and his wife Margaret have four children: Sons Connor, Patrick and Jack

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1246&path=mbball

Family Wife, Margaret
Sons, Connor, Patrick and Jonathan Francis
Daughter, Marit Katherine

Jesus, dude. I was joking.

 

[Hawkmi1987]

Thought Patrick was the youngest and I thought he was supposed to be the best. He'll be lucky to be in the top 150 by his Senior year if he goes the same path as Connor

Or he could continue to improve and shoot up the rankings. Nobody knows.

 

[CyTwins]

Or he could continue to improve and shoot up the rankings. Nobody knows.

Doubtful, Connor collapsed throughout his career and Fran seems to do it every season too

 

[Hawkmi1987]

Doubtful, Connor collapsed throughout his career and Fran seems to do it every season too

 

[YeahBuddy]

Doubtful, Connor collapsed throughout his career and Fran seems to do it every season too

False, throwing out the first year when the team was awful, there really have only been 2 end of season collapses. One of those seasons, his son was dealing with serious health issues.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2012

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2013

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2014

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2015

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2016

 

[CyTwins]

False, throwing out the first year when the team was awful, there really have only been 2 end of season collapses. One of those seasons, his son was dealing with serious health issues.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2012

Lost 3 out of their final 5, NIT

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2013

Blown out by a meh Big 12 team to end the season, NIT

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2014

Definition of collapse

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2015

Lost 2 of their final 3, easy back end of the Big Ten schedule, blown out in the tourney

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2294/year/2016

Definition of collapse

Nice try

 

[YeahBuddy]

Nice try

Losing 3 out of 5 isnt considered a collapse when the team only finished 1 game above .500 for the season. 2 collapses, one of them was when his son was very ill.

 

[CyTwins]

Losing 3 out of 5 isnt considered a collapse when the team only finished 1 game above .500 for the season. 2 collapses, one of them was when his son was very ill.

So they've been good 3 years and he's collapsed 2 of them. I like those odds.

 

[isuno1fan]

I'll put it in other terms for the naive here,.

I don't believe the gap between Iowa FB and ISU FB is all that great. Iowa is better yes but it isn't better to the degree most Iowa fans think it is.

The same is true for ISU BB vs Iowa BB.

DEMS THE FACTS

 

[YeahBuddy]

So they've been good 3 years and he's collapsed 2 of them. I like those odds.

But not even close to every season, which is what you said.

 

[CyTwins]

I'll put it in other terms for the naive here,.

I don't believe the gap between Iowa FB and ISU FB is all that great. Iowa is better yes but it isn't better to the degree most Iowa fans think it is.

The same is true for ISU BB vs Iowa BB.

DEMS THE FACTS

Actually these are the facts. Maybe you should look at them instead of living in your alternative universe

TCU - 32nd on KenPom 33rd on Sagarin, RPI of 32
Iowa - 70th on KemPom, 74th on Sagarin, RPI of 112

 

[CyTwins]

But not even close to every season, which is what you said.

So they've either been not good or collapsed in all but one season under Fran. Thanks for proving my point

 

[Gunnerclone]

I'll put it in other terms for the naive here,.

I don't believe the gap between Iowa FB and ISU FB is all that great. Iowa is better yes but it isn't better to the degree most Iowa fans think it is.

The same is true for ISU BB vs Iowa BB.

DEMS THE FACTS

No one cares.

 

[YeahBuddy]

Doubtful, Connor collapsed throughout his career and Fran seems to do it every season too

So they've either been not good or collapsed in all but one season under Fran. Thanks for proving my point

That was not your point.

 

[rholtgraves]

I'll put it in other terms for the naive here,.

I don't believe the gap between Iowa FB and ISU FB is all that great. Iowa is better yes but it isn't better to the degree most Iowa fans think it is.

The same is true for ISU BB vs Iowa BB.

DEMS THE FACTS

False equivalency. Iowa FB being not much better than ISU FB does not mean ISU BB is only slightly better than Iowa BB. I don't even know what to say about this logic.

 

[Hawkmi1987]

So they've either been not good or collapsed in all but one season under Fran. Thanks for proving my point

 

[CyTwins]

That was not your point.

I've changed my point now to Fran's history at Iowa is either they will be not good or collapse since he's done that in all but one season

 

[isuno1fan]

No one cares.

CyTwins does....almost to an obsessive degree