Rhoads> Ferentz???

give me a break. I've watched every one of his games I'm pretty sure I've seen enough of his snaps to know if he was a good quarterback or not.



no, that's like breaking up with a chick and being happy that she found someone else later.

So how do you explain the numbers he put up his junior year if he wasn't good? Please tell me it was because Marvin McNutt, who's on a practice squad, did it for him. I'm not saying JVB was a great QB but he obviously had talent and the coaching staff handcuffed him
 
i agree. On the one hand, I love the fact that Iowa is willing to pay that much money for a coach. On the other, it really makes it hard to earn your pay when you make more than just a few coaches.

I understand paying him a lot based on what he did for the program years ago but I think they got a little pay crazy.
 
i agree. On the one hand, I love the fact that Iowa is willing to pay that much money for a coach. On the other, it really makes it hard to earn your pay when you make more than just a few coaches.



College Football's Top 50 Coaching Salaries: Are They Paid What They Should Be? | Bleacher Report

Yeah it's a Bleacher Report... But It's good to see they agree with everyone... Well non Hawk fans.

I always love paying more for less.... It's a way to go through life.
 
So how do you explain the numbers he put up his junior year if he wasn't good? Please tell me it was because Marvin McNutt, who's on a practice squad, did it for him. I'm not saying JVB was a great QB but he obviously had talent and the coaching staff handcuffed him

Take a look at the defensive ratings of the teams that he put all those numbers up against. The change in OC did have an affect as well.

Also, you do understand the issue of sample size right?
 
Take a look at the defensive ratings of the teams that he put all those numbers up against. The change in OC did have an affect as well.

Also, you do understand the issue of sample size right?

One full season isn't a big enough sample size? And what exactly do you mean the change in OC had an affect as well?
 
One full season isn't a big enough sample size? And what exactly do you mean the change in OC had an affect as well?

no, 12 games is not a big sample size at all. That's why when people run projections for seasons they have their computers run through each game 1,000 times or more.

We'll never really know the affect the change in OC had. I think we can assume it must have had some affect.
 
no, 12 games is not a big sample size at all. That's why when people run projections for seasons they have their computers run through each game 1,000 times or more.

We'll never really know the affect the change in OC had. I think we can assume it must have had some affect.

Well since KF is such a great coach he should find out who hired the OC and relieve them of their duties...
 
Well since KF is such a great coach he should find out who hired the OC and relieve them of their duties...

or maybe find a better quarterback who can do the things his coach asks him to.

Anyway, I'm getting bored of this discussion but it was a fun was to pass the time.
 
or maybe find a better quarterback who can do the things his coach asks him to.

Anyway, I'm getting bored of this discussion but it was a fun was to pass the time.

Hahaha gonna be a long season for you this year
 
Hahaha gonna be a long season for you this year

there is always hope when you're talking about quarterbacks who haven't played, that's why the backup quarterback is the best job on the roster.

That said, I'm afraid you're going to be right.
 
there is always hope when you're talking about quarterbacks who haven't played, that's why the backup quarterback is the best job on the roster.

That said, I'm afraid you're going to be right.

Well obviously JVB was better than Rudock who will probably be your starter this year...maybe Ferentz will get "lucky" again with a good QB before he steps down in 2020
 
Well obviously JVB was better than Rudock who will probably be your starter this year...maybe Ferentz will get "lucky" again with a good QB before he steps down in 2020

And by steps down you mean passes the job onto his son.
 
CyTwins, did you get all 415 of your posts being a ********* to these Hawk fans? And people wonder where this "little brother" moniker comes from...
 
CyTwins, did you get all 415 of your posts being a ********* to these Hawk fans? And people wonder where this "little brother" moniker comes from...

Probably 75%. It was pretty easy during basketball season when they thought they were relevant...now saying KF is a good coach is just too easy. I guess debating with Hok fans make me a little brother?
 
Probably 75%. It was pretty easy during basketball season when they thought they were relevant...now saying KF is a good coach is just too easy. I guess debating with Hok fans make me a little brother?

Your "debating" consisted of running down Kirk Ferentz based on his achievements at Iowa. We may have his number the last couple of years, but last I checked, Ferentz had achieved far more things at Iowa than CPR has achieved here at ISU. Ferentz is a good coach in the middle of a slump. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
CyTwins, did you get all 415 of your posts being a ********* to these Hawk fans? And people wonder where this "little brother" moniker comes from...

As much as I hate the CF idiots arguing with Hawk fans on here and making themselves look like fools, CyTwins does a good job of providing relevant arguments against anything Hawkeye. Though I don't fully agree with everything he(?) posts, it is not useless rambling out of hatred alone for the Hawks.
 
Your "debating" consisted of running down Kirk Ferentz based on his achievements at Iowa. We may have his number the last couple of years, but last I checked, Ferentz had achieved far more things at Iowa than CPR has achieved here at ISU. Ferentz is a good coach in the middle of a slump. Nothing more, nothing less.

My debate was I think KF used to be a good coach, I don't think he is anymore but thats just my opinion. The game has changed over the last few years and he has refused to adapt his style and it shows. I also stated CPR has 0 top 20 finishes while KF has multiple but I'd still rather have CPR as a coach right now...
 
I will definitely admit that CyTwins is no Jamby. The hatred in that one runs deep.

For the record, I am very happy that we have CPR and not Kirk.
 
I will definitely admit that CyTwins is no Jamby. The hatred in that one runs deep.

For the record, I am very happy that we have CPR and not Kirk.

I have posted a lot in this thread but it was only because Clark was making excuses after excuses on why KF hadn't had success lately...plus its hard to be the little brother when we've had more success in both major sports over the last 3 years
 

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