Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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If I'm WSU or OSU, I say **** off and give them each $1.00.
I listened to a podcast this morning that had 2 respected members of the media on. One said that clemson and miami had put out feelers, and the BIG and SEC are not interested. Neither brings in 70 million to pay their own way or opens new markets. and the SEC doesnt want FSU, although the BIG does.
If UNC, UVA, and FSU leave, the big 12 would have its pick of the rest. The guy said yormark and the big 12 would only take 4--would not expand beyond 20.
my dart at the wall is big 12 would take clemson, vt, pitt, miami.
it would be hard not to take nc state and louisville, but if the line is 20, who gets left out?
Can we kick out houston and take nc state?
If UNC, UVA, and FSU leave, the big 12 would have its pick of the rest. The guy said yormark and the big 12 would only take 4--would not expand beyond 20.
my dart at the wall is big 12 would take clemson, vt, pitt, miami.
it would be hard not to take nc state and louisville, but if the line is 20, who gets left out?
Can we kick out houston and take nc state?
The Big and SEC hate being viewed as the bad guy, so that's just what they would be saying (if this conversation is actually happening). However, they will gladly be the savior that saves Clemson, UNC, FSU, Miami, Virginia, etc. from certain doom that was somehow created by the Big 12.
They’d also bring in those others at a discount for a few years, like Rutgers/Maryland in past and UO and UW most recently.
I’d be down with that. I said in an earlier post, 20 makes more sense than 16. The division breakdown wouldn’t be super favorable for ISU as I’m sure they’d be paired with the Eastern schools. But it would be a respectable league.
But, also as I said in a previous post, the negotiations for 2026 and beyond playoffs will be critical. It’d be nice for the ACC to still be around for another voting partner to keep the P2 in check.
We should take NC State over Miami all day every day.
Miami is living off the past. UCF outdraws them.
Feels like that was coming more from Gonzaga to try and bait a Pac bid when that was still possible. I'm sure Yormark was listening, but getting AD's and university presidents on board with that was always going to be a stretch.
I think they're waiting on what happens with the Pac2/Mountain West thing to resolve itself before they make a decision. If that shakes out right that might be their preference from a travel perspective and it's a definite step up from the WCC.
I'd be curious as to the reason why they wouldn't be interested. It's possible that neither conference wants to add either of them now since they are going to be in the process of onboarding several new schools. Plus, it's not like they wouldn't jump ship to either of them in the future. Really, there's no point in rushing adding either Clemson or FSU.
The SEC is in a spot where there are no schools available for them to get that would expand their market as the ACC and SEC overlap. The Big 10 is in a great spot in that regards.
Can we just assume a losing record in conference could still get you a two seed in the NCAA tourny? That’s one brutal basketball conference.
In this best case scenario that would still be a clear P3 on the football field.
In basketball the current situation is the Big 12 as P1 and no matter who we add it will be elite.
The Big Ten was once rumored to be adamant that Washington and Oregon were money losers too...so I'm guessing they take Miami at the very least.
This year if you look at any voter ranking or computer ranking the Big 12 is already a Power One conference. Then you look that we're replacing OU/Texas with the #1 AP poll team in the nation, no drop off.
I think its as the post said they are not additive to the money, or the markets. They only subtract from the others.
This has become the issue. The money has gotten so high in the B1G and SEC that very few teams will come in at even money let alone increase it. That added to the fact they are in areas already covered, or covered by others that would be added before they are, it makes it very hard for the SEC or B1G to add those schools, without actually costing the current members money.
I get why the SEC wouldn't want to double up a relatively small population state like SC. It's also entirely possible Clemson has had its moment in the sun.
I don't get why the Big Ten would want USC/UCLA and pass on Miami. I mean it's not like Miami is forcing them to take USF the way USC forced them to take UCLA.
Which is a big reason why both are getting half shares (B12 type money) from B10 through 2031.
Disney stock down 50% from 2021. If things don't dramatically turn for them, trust me ESPN will be either shopped or trimmed. Contract expansion on an already debt ridden network would not be something Iger will stomach. IMO SEC stays pat. B1G on the other hand would love some SE representation. This is gonna get very interesting.
ESPN and SEC can't even reach agreement on ESPN paying extra for a 9th conference game amongst the existing 16 SEC schools. Not sure if that is due to ESPN cash flow issues or SEC demanding more money than ESPN is willing to pay. So there is now no way the SEC expands in the foreseeable future.