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Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

isu81 said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but you think a conference with the leftovers from the P12, B12, ACC and some G5 schools is sitting at the same table with what the SEC and B10 would look like at that point? This is pretty obviously a 2 conference race.

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1UNI2ISU said:
If IF the Big Ten is only taking OR/WA, Stanford/Cal have reached a true crossroads about what athletics really is on those campuses.

I can't imagine they'll allow themselves to be associated with some of the new members of the league they'll be in (looking at you Boise State and SMU) but do they want to pull the plug to the point of being West Coast Ivy affiliates or joining the rest of the UC system in the Big West. That's turned into the most interesting piece for me at this point since everything else feels like a done deal.
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I could see them stepping back from athletics for a few reasons like CTE specifically in football and the rumblings about legacy admissions, the shockingly high % of admissions for large headcount football at a small school like Stanford, and the now amplified rumblings about legacy admissions and how a lot of these sports at places like Stanford are just a way to pump in more of the legacy types.

Maybe it doesn't even happen now, but I could see it 25-50 years from now and these would be the exact two big time national athletic programs where it would start.
 
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BigTurk said:
What if the B10 add Oregon and Washington. That's 16 (damn I am good at math!), then maybe Stanford and Cal. Ok, now 18. Now if the ACC crumbles they will push for UNC and UVA. Twenty.
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Don't forget USC/UCLA, so add 2 to your numbers.

Yes, and I think it may all stop when the 3 conferences get to 20 or slightly above.

Then it will go into a 1 super conference push, or some kind of contraction? I just hope we have some peace and quiet for a while in between. I don't look forward to this last part.

And not that I am having a great deal of fun with all of this now!
 
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exCyDing said:
Unequal revenue suggestions are a harbinger of doom for a conference, and has yet to work.
  • The B12 gave it a try and the result was everyone who was receiving more bolted anyway.
  • It seemed like it might be the trick to keeping the PAC together, but it doesn't look like even that will work.
  • Some ACC schools seem to be inching towards demanding it, even though they have zero leverage and there's no chance they stay in the conference once they figure a way out of the GOR.
If the B10's next media deal is relatively flat, how much do you bet certain institutions in the B10 and SEC will start floating the idea?
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I’d almost say that FSU is pretty much demanding it already.



 
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t-noah said:
Don't forget USC/UCLA, so add 2 to your numbers.

Yes, and I think it may all stop when the 3 conferences get to 20 or slightly above.

Then it will go into a 1 super conference push, or some kind of contraction? I just hope we have some peace and quiet for a while in between. I don't look forward to this last part.

And not that I am having a great deal of fun with all of this now!
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Superconference ain't happening.
 
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Gonzo said:
Superconference ain't happening.
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The next thing will be that the Big10 East will want to have its own TV contract because they deserve more than the West. They’ll break apart and form two 10 team conferences. Until a few years later when one of those 10 team conferences decide they need to expand to get a better deal. They’ll raid the other conferences until they’re back up to 29 teams. Rinse repeat.
 
1UNI2ISU said:
If IF the Big Ten is only taking OR/WA, Stanford/Cal have reached a true crossroads about what athletics really is on those campuses.

I can't imagine they'll allow themselves to be associated with some of the new members of the league they'll be in (looking at you Boise State and SMU) but do they want to pull the plug to the point of being West Coast Ivy affiliates or joining the rest of the UC system in the Big West. That's turned into the most interesting piece for me at this point since everything else feels like a done deal.
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They will be out of options. I don’t even think the four Pac-12 leftovers will have the juice to pick and choose their additions. They can’t pay exit fees for other schools and they have no TV deal.

Assuming OR/WA to the B1G and the Four Corners to the B12… The most likely outcome, I think, is a “merger” in name only of the four leftovers with the Mountain West. That merged league would take on the Pac-12 name and branding and the MWC would officially dissolve. Basically the four leftovers would sell the Pac’s cache to the MWC in order to get them to come over and keep the Pac-12 (Pac-16?) alive in name only.

The alternative is giving up athletics entirely. I don’t think even Cal or Stanford will pull a UChicago and do that.
 
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