Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[BigTurk]

The last 12+ months in the PAC12 have been a master class on not how to be an effective leader and how to not have an effective communication plan.

I discuss this with my colleagues a lot. A lack of communication causes a lot of problems. A good leader just needs to be open and honest, and many problems would be diverted.

 

[wenkeej]

I found this article interesting.

A couple quotes from there.

But Phillips has also touted the ACC's relatively secure position as the No. 3 league in TV revenue, which along with the conference's grant of rights deal, which extends until 2036, as a source of optimism.

Are they really third? I’ve looked and found 3 different sources that say 3 different things. One has the ACC at $17M/team, one had $23.3M/team, and one had $35-38M/ team. But it was stated they were 3rd in revenue without question by the author and commissioner in the article.

As one AD suggested, expansion could be valuable to the league simply as a means of preventing the Big 12 from growing further.
Phillips acknowledged that reality at the league's kickoff event this week.

"You have to understand what's going on across the country," Phillips told ESPN. "Maybe you preempt [another league's expansion], maybe you don't, maybe there's a first thing that has to happen before you make a move. There's a variety of ways you attack this."

It definitely looks like the ACC might make moves just to prevent the B12 from solidifying itself as a 3rd P3. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard a conference official admit that publicly.

Ultimately, I don’t think the ACC is a threat to our expansion, but something to keep an eye on. A.) they actively had a mutiny during meeting a couple months ago were 7 teams were exploring how to break the GOR B.) I’m not 100% sure they are actually 3rd in revenue per team C.) there aren’t any expansion candidates, except for OU and UW, that I think the ACC schools would vote to bring on D.) the GOR through 2036 is prohibitive C.) geography works against them and west coast schools

I read that same article on ESPN. Phillips is bragging about total conference revenue, which the ACC was 3rd last year. But when that gets distributed to all the schools each school's payout landed them 4th, behind the Big 12. Misleading, but not a lie.

I'm more curious in seeing if there is any traction in the idea the ACC could expand or Florida St could find enough money and bolt soon, leading to a whole new s***storm.

 

[Gunnerclone]

ACC not worth much after UNC UVA FSU Clemson take off. Louisville makes $146 mil rev and VT makes $113 mil. Those are the only 2 schools with more than ISU's $111 mil. Crazy to see how close the teams are in this list. Those 3 AAC schools have to feel like they won the lottery joining B12 when they did.

Also, I love that ISU is top 40 rev.
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How is it possible that Purdue is so low?

 

[JM4CY]

 

[wenkeej]

I discuss this with my colleagues a lot. A lack of communication causes a lot of problems. A good leader just needs to be open and honest, and many problems would be diverted.

A leader can be open and honest without having to say everything, especially when there is legal/sensitive information involved.

 

[boone7247]

Uh need this from somewhere else to believe it.

 

[werdnamanhill]

Uh need this from somewhere else to believe it.

You don't trust the intrepid reporters of Frogs Today??

 

[Jeremy]

You don't trust the intrepid reporters of Frogs Today??

Sometimes they have a tendency to leap to conclusions.

 

[boone7247]

You don't trust the intrepid reporters of Frogs Today??

I mean I do rate them higher than the dude of wvu.

You have to live the the poop fling to see what sticks that goes on.

 

[wenkeej]

Sometimes they have a tendency to leap to conclusions.

You saying they might have bought one of these?

 

[Cloneon]

Sometimes they have a tendency to leap to conclusions.

Oh, but this can be so much fun if one eye is on the fantasy, but other on the reality. OR would be the dagger.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I read that same article on ESPN. Phillips is bragging about total conference revenue, which the ACC was 3rd last year. But when that gets distributed to all the schools each school's payout landed them 4th, behind the Big 12. Misleading, but not a lie.

I'm more curious in seeing if there is any traction in the idea the ACC could expand or Florida St could find enough money and bolt soon, leading to a whole new s***storm.

Ok I thought he was referencing overall conference revenue rather than per team as well. It was confusing though because the writer referenced per-team payouts for the B10 and SEC. And then, either intentionally or lazily, didn’t mention what that number was for the ACC.

Overall conference revenue is irrelevant in realignment. All that matters is what each school can make

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Who’s next? You don’t hold spots for ACC do you?

There's no reason to "hold spots" because there is no set number of teams for a conference. Grab what you can now and wait for Clemson, FSU, and Miami to blow up the ACC. Then the SEC, B1G, and Big 12 pick up the pieces and it's a three conference league.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Uh need this from somewhere else to believe it.

I’ll wait for The Skeeda to report on this.

 

[CascadeClone]

Sometimes they have a tendency to leap to conclusions.

My dad approves of this joke.

 

[CloneLawman]

Uh need this from somewhere else to believe it.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Sorry if I missed it, but has GK decided yet if he's going shopping in the B12?

He's going shopping but he's still trying to find out if their is a lay-away program he can utilize.

 

[CascadeClone]

There's no reason to "hold spots" because there is no set number of teams for a conference. Grab what you can now and wait for Clemson, FSU, and Miami to blow up the ACC. Then the SEC, B1G, and Big 12 pick up the pieces and it's a three conference league.

I agree in principle - go for scale to become "too big to fail". But I am pretty sure the TV folks won't keep up the money pro rata past 4 adds - and that's assuming OU or UW are one of the 4 adds.

Now maybe the Big12 is OK with 31.7 turning into 28.5 by adding 6 teams, but maybe not. I suppose it depends what BY thinks his endgame is once the ACC gets paoched by the B1G and SEC - whether that is next year, or 10 years from now.

 

[JM4CY]

Sometimes they have a tendency to leap to conclusions.

Ban yourself.

 

[Yaz]