George presenting his deal to the remaining schools.George will scramble and present a deal shortly
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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My other favorite part of that Wilner article is the indignation of "CU's chancellor didn't even wait to see the Pac's numbers before accepting the Big 12's invite"
Like how much ******* longer were they supposed to wait??
Like how much ******* longer were they supposed to wait??
PAC saw the money that SEC and B1G were getting in renegotiations and had a moment where they failed to assess themselves properly. After a year of being told they weren't worth what they thought they were, USCLA took the sure thing, and after another whole year where the conference failed to secure a media deal, CU tapped out.
They have plenty of sycophants, but the PAC is dying because they have consistently been managed very poorly for more than ten years now.
Their combined hubris and incompetence absolutely handed the Big 12 the opportunity it needed to survive. At least we took it.
They have plenty of sycophants, but the PAC is dying because they have consistently been managed very poorly for more than ten years now.
Their combined hubris and incompetence absolutely handed the Big 12 the opportunity it needed to survive. At least we took it.
On one hand, I think if the offers the PAC has received were put in front of members back in March, April, May, or June, the exodus would have only begun sooner.
On the other hand, delaying the inevitable took a very bad situation and made it into an existential crisis. If, say, 3 more schools leave over the next weeks, is the PAC able to find schools to backfill in time for 2024 and also get a media deal done? Or does the PAC just cease to exist? It would be hard to think of the PAC just disappearing, but most of their best backfill options are in the MWC, and a $35M exit fee per school is pretty steep. It almost seems more likely for the MWC to absorb the PAC than the other way around.
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It’s more than that. The attitude and arrogance is crazy. They aren’t being professional. Even after the Larry Scott debacle they aren’t thinking or acting like a business entity. It’s freaking weird at this point. Reminds me of another entity in this country that is failing badly. Projection doesn’t get you anywhere in the end, just from pointless point to pointless point.
What if….there’s never been an offer, and there is still no offer.
There’ve been offers (reportedly) but nothing was put in front of members to consider. Which means they were absolute **** or wouldn’t be accepted. Or would make schools realize it was time to bolt.
And ultimately the point. If they did have offers that were "good enough" or beating the Big 12 we wouldn't be talking about this. It would've been signed and done with long ago.
It's hilarious how the PAC feels it is ultra-aggressive for us to take back the team they poached from us a dozen years ago. Reminds me of how Russia feels it's ultra-aggressive for Ukraine to take back Crimea, the land Russia stole from Ukraine 9 years ago.
Just merge with all the MWC, the MWC is 11 members plus Hawaii for FB. Of the 6 remaining PAC members 1 or 2 would never like having any of them so it'd be a 16 member league.
The parity of the Big 12 really provides the opportunity to thrive.
For the first time since the start of the big broadcast media era, the conference will be stable and not held to the demands of one or two media favorites.
Realignment has been a terrifying experience, but we crawled through the proverbial river of **** and came out clean on the other side.
For the first time since the start of the big broadcast media era, the conference will be stable and not held to the demands of one or two media favorites.
Realignment has been a terrifying experience, but we crawled through the proverbial river of **** and came out clean on the other side.
The fact that there hasn't been an "All nine schools have met and are 100% committed to our future together" face saving statement or tweet yet from the PAC is wild.
This!!!
The only reason we are ‘raiding’ the pac now is because their deal and GOR are up and we can do so with no exit fees. The pac can’t just grab schools from the MWC as it sees fit. The MWCs deal isn’t expiring soon and there is an exit fee of 35 million per school. They don’t have cash on hand to do so. Some of their athletic departments are already underwater financially and struggling. If the remaining teams are too proud to dissolve and join the MWC, then they need to be prepared to merge with the entire MWC to avoid exit fees. That or they can exist as a 6-8 team league for a while until they can either afford exit fees or exit fees expire. All of those options described come at even less money than their current media deal offer and way less than what the big 12 is offering. I will be shocked if 3 teams aren’t joining the big 12 ASAP.
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To add to the exit fee dilemma I was describing above… this is why they are talking merger with the ACC instead of just backfilling with some MWC schools. They would rather merge with them than the icky MWC. But there is now way they are going to convince most of the schools in the ACC to bolt because most of them have SEC and Big 10 invites waiting as soon as it is fiscally viable to do so. All these schools want is out of the current GOR, but a merger would most likely abolish the current GOR and require them to sign a new one. And they are signing a new one.
Anyway… maybe I am misunderstanding some of this, but it sure seems like the remaining teams in the Pac have few options left other than to flee or merge.
Anyway… maybe I am misunderstanding some of this, but it sure seems like the remaining teams in the Pac have few options left other than to flee or merge.
I literally just went to the Pac 12s Twitter account to see what statement they have put out. They have literally said nothing since yesterday morning. To your point, I thought there would be at least a unity BS statement for the rest of the conference. Nothing, they are in full panic mode behind closed doors.