Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Love Iowa State athletics; hate the money grab culture of collegiate sports, fueled by colleges who are already well off
So when the athletes form there union, they will force equal pay. That could make things interesting.
equal pay within a conference, but not college football. They do that and the Big 10 and SEC will break away, form their own league. A Big 12 players union will have no leverage on those conferences.
 
Once you start paying per team representation (conference representation) then you have just guaranteed that Big 10 and SEC will exert maximum pressure to make sure they have all the at large bids. It’s a black hole you don’t get out of.
 
The NFL also has a central commissioner and far fewer members
What does that have to do with this? You made a judgment call on who should get more, has nothing to do with ease of implementation.

“they should get more.”
 
Going down to 32 teams isn’t required for revenue sharing, why are you stuck on that number?

It’s #2 with big changes coming, including no more underpaid labor. The P2 are trying to squeeze closer to 32, good grief.
Why would teams in the Big 10 and SEC want to share with anyone outside, though? They have the biggest brands. The biggest fanbases. The best recruits. The biggest contracts. The biggest tv ratings. Why would it be in their best interest to implement any measures that might result in parity?
 
In the capitalist sense. They generate more revenue, they deserve more.
I would imagine a big part of the argument would be that if you don’t pay the big conferences more, than each team in the B1G would actually get less than the smaller conferences (because they have to split it 18 ways instead of 14, etc).

And as soon as FSU negotiates a settlement to get out of the ACC, it’s not going to be 18 but somewhere between 20 and 24.

So for instance if each conference got the same payout, should SMU make more than OSU? Especially once the B1G has 24 members and the ACC is left at 9. Does that make any sense? And if the ACC backfills by adding a bunch more G5 teams, do those recently promoted g5 teams provide the same value and deserve the same payout?

Of course the counter argument is that the long term health of the sport is better with equal sharing, or even looking for ways to give the weaker teams a boost like the NFL, but nobody seems interested in that right now.
 
Why would teams in the Big 10 and SEC want to share with anyone outside, though? They have the biggest brands. The biggest fanbases. The best recruits. The biggest contracts. The biggest tv ratings. Why would it be in their best interest to implement any measures that might result in parity?
They don’t want to. I doubt the Dallas Cowboys want to share equally either. Parity has been great for the health of the NFL, and you could argue a certain level of parity led to college football having tremendous success. Yes there were dominant programs, but the success was spread across the P5 at least.

It might be in the players best interest to have the pie sliced more equally as well, in more teams to pay them. Their influence will probably be too late though.
 
What does that have to do with this? You made a judgment call on who should get more, has nothing to do with ease of implementation.

“they should get more.”

It has everything to do with this. When the players form a union, they’re not negotiating terms across the entire NCAA. They’re negotiating terms with individual conferences because there’s no overpowering administrative group with a commissioner. So they can negotiate a different pay scale with the SEC than the Big12.

Remember, a union doesn’t just set the pay scale on their own. There’s collective bargaining to come to an agreement for that pay and benefits. Think of it similar to the UAW. They don’t have the same contract with GM and Ford. They’re certainly similar because they have to be to keep workers and still be profitable. But they’re all negotiated separately. Just like the negotiations will be with each conference.
 
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It has everything to do with this. When the players form a union, they’re not negotiating terms across the entire NCAA. They’re negotiating terms with individual conferences because there’s no overpowering administrative group with a commissioner. So they can negotiate a different pay scale with the SEC than the Big12.

Remember, a union doesn’t just set the pay scale on their own. There’s collective bargaining to come to an agreement for that pay and benefits. Think of it similar to the UAW. They don’t have the same contract with GM and Ford. They’re certainly similar because they have to be to keep workers and still be profitable. But they’re all negotiated separately. Just like the negotiations will be with each conference.
I don’t think we know that yet, why would they be negotiating with conferences? That’s a huge jump in power for conference commissioners??
 
I don’t think we know that yet, why would they be negotiating with conferences? That’s a huge jump in power for conference commissioners??

Who else has the authority to negotiate? The NCAA doesn’t have the money to pay players. All the money goes to the conferences.

Ultimately, the negotiations would be with whatever entity pays them. So unless a new entity with actual teeth is created, the highest level with money is the conferences. To have that entity would almost certainly require schools to sign away TV rights to that entity in order to generate money via TV deals.
 
And as much as I hate to say it, if there are more Big 10 and SEC teams in the playoff, they should get more.

Only disagreeing because ESPN pushs the B1G SEC narrative all season long. It's like listening to that dumb *ss bald guy on espn in studio still pushing the narrative that KU is the cream the B12 this yr. Repeat the lie the sheep will believe it that is their whole theory.
 
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Why would teams in the Big 10 and SEC want to share with anyone outside, though? They have the biggest brands. The biggest fanbases. The best recruits. The biggest contracts. The biggest tv ratings. Why would it be in their best interest to implement any measures that might result in parity?
Somewhere is some backroom some media moguls have already figured out how to transform some schools with less greed, into bigger fan bases, more popular and more equitably funded. The media controls the lazy entertainment generation.
 
It has everything to do with this. When the players form a union, they’re not negotiating terms across the entire NCAA. They’re negotiating terms with individual conferences because there’s no overpowering administrative group with a commissioner. So they can negotiate a different pay scale with the SEC than the Big12.

Remember, a union doesn’t just set the pay scale on their own. There’s collective bargaining to come to an agreement for that pay and benefits. Think of it similar to the UAW. They don’t have the same contract with GM and Ford. They’re certainly similar because they have to be to keep workers and still be profitable. But they’re all negotiated separately. Just like the negotiations will be with each conference.
Maybe someone with really good inside information knows the answer to this question. Given the enormity of some 'contracts', is there a 'borrowing' element to it? If so, sustainable media contracts is essential to the paying parties. This could really muddy the waters if the media doesn't feel fit to payout consistently across contracts relative to inflation and/or value. Just sayin.
 
Love Iowa State athletics; hate the money grab culture of collegiate sports, fueled by colleges who are already well off
True but you also have to put blame on the NCAA. They’ve been making millions under the old model for decades and refused to be proactive. They dug in, and that led us to where we are now. I love college sports, especially ISU, but college sports is going to fundamentally change and I am unsure if I want to be a part.
 
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True but you also have to put blame on the NCAA. They’ve been making millions under the old model for decades and refused to be proactive. They dug in, and that led us to where we are now. I love college sports, especially ISU, but college sports is going to fundamentally change and I am unsure if I want to be a part.

The NCAA is toothless and has always been. They were acting in the interest of their membership who were all on board until a couple of court rulings called them out for their anticompetitive actions against students. That system was both wrong, and better for the sport than what we have now. So we are still in the spring things out stage, and without one negotiator on behalf of cfb, it's every man for himself.

For me, I'll always blame the B1G and SEC for ruining the sport with the knowledge that at some point everyone gets their just desserts.
 
People have latched on to NFL is Rigged/Scripted/whatever. Who knows.

This right here is how things become rigged. The deck gets stacked against the many to benefit the few. A theoretically merit based tournament gets rigged by a propaganda machine media partner to drive self fulfilling rankings rife with objective Eye Tests to line the pockets of the top dogs.

In no universe are Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Miss St, Kentucky, South Carolina, Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, Iowa, Illinois, Arkansas, Mizzou part of the “Elite” football brands that deserve $100M a year. They are at best overpaid cannon fodder.

I guess someone has to be the Washington Generals.
 

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