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Show me a team that played 2 QB and was actually successful. Maybe you could make an argument for the 2006 Florida team with Leak/Tebow, but they also had 9 players drafted into the NFL that year and multiple others on that team that would be drafted eventually.

Bottom line-Good teams don't use multiple QBs.

I agree. But we did pretty good job when we brought in Lanning occasionally with Kempt.
 
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Show me a team that played 2 QB and was actually successful. Maybe you could make an argument for the 2006 Florida team with Leak/Tebow, but they also had 9 players drafted into the NFL that year and multiple others on that team that would be drafted eventually.

Bottom line-Good teams don't use multiple QBs.
No one is talking about anything close to even reps.


Bottom line, use Mitchell more than on the sideline 99% of the season’s snaps
 
I agree. But we did pretty good job when we brought in Lanning occasionally with Kempt.

No one is talking about anything close to even reps.


Bottom line, use Mitchell more than on the sideline 99% of the season’s snaps

The difference between the Lanning situation and the Mitchell situation is two fold, in my opinion. First, Mitchell is the backup QB, one play away from being the starter. Lanning was never going to be a primary QB again. You don't risk your backup QB by putting him in as a direct snap running back, because lets face it, if he is playing when it's not a blowout or an injury to Brock, he isn't throwing. Secondly, Lanning was 230 lbs. Basically a fullback at that point, he could be the LanRam. Mitchell is 190ish. He is more of a homerun hitter rather than that short yardage back Lanning was. I could see maybe a couple plays for him a game unless Brock is unable to go at some point.
 
Show me a team that played 2 QB and was actually successful. Maybe you could make an argument for the 2006 Florida team with Leak/Tebow, but they also had 9 players drafted into the NFL that year and multiple others on that team that would be drafted eventually.

Bottom line-Good teams don't use multiple QBs.

What’s your definition of successful? National Championship contender?
 
The difference between the Lanning situation and the Mitchell situation is two fold, in my opinion. First, Mitchell is the backup QB, one play away from being the starter. Lanning was never going to be a primary QB again. You don't risk your backup QB by putting him in as a direct snap running back, because lets face it, if he is playing when it's not a blowout or an injury to Brock, he isn't throwing. Secondly, Lanning was 230 lbs. Basically a fullback at that point, he could be the LanRam. Mitchell is 190ish. He is more of a homerun hitter rather than that short yardage back Lanning was. I could see maybe a couple plays for him a game unless Brock is unable to go at some point.

This. I could see him in some trickeration possibly but he doesn’t need any packages .
 
Show me a team that played 2 QB and was actually successful. Maybe you could make an argument for the 2006 Florida team with Leak/Tebow, but they also had 9 players drafted into the NFL that year and multiple others on that team that would be drafted eventually.

Bottom line-Good teams don't use multiple QBs.

Didnt Boise is 2 qbs back in lile 2006 or 7? They did decent.
OU did will with Landry and Bell.

Just saying
 
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The difference between the Lanning situation and the Mitchell situation is two fold, in my opinion. First, Mitchell is the backup QB, one play away from being the starter. Lanning was never going to be a primary QB again. You don't risk your backup QB by putting him in as a direct snap running back, because lets face it, if he is playing when it's not a blowout or an injury to Brock, he isn't throwing. Secondly, Lanning was 230 lbs. Basically a fullback at that point, he could be the LanRam. Mitchell is 190ish. He is more of a homerun hitter rather than that short yardage back Lanning was. I could see maybe a couple plays for him a game unless Brock is unable to go at some point.
You’re going with injury risk? You must be surprised they played him in meaningless garbage time then.
But right, although we can risk injury to Mitchell in meaningless time, we should not risk injury in meaningful time (thereby also reducing Purdy’s injury risk). I guess we better play Kolar instead, lol.

Also, you must not recall Lanning was the starting MLB with no one behind him. We couldn’t afford to lose him. Mitchell isn’t anywhere near that valuable as the (maybe) backup QB. But he is a playmaker.

Mitchell is much more valuable coming in and making the defense prepare for a run/pass/catch wildcard than he is as backup QB that only sees garbage time. You do realize you can use Mitchell differently than LanRam?? In fact, hopefully it wouldn’t be in such transparent “package” plays, but replacing Jones as the motion receiver.
 
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No one is talking about anything close to even reps.


Bottom line, use Mitchell more than on the sideline 99% of the season’s snaps
Use him were? He's stuck behind a really good QB. We have plenty of good wide receivers and running backs. We also have plenty of good athletes that don't see the field at other positions as well and no one cares. I don't get the infatuation with trying to get Mitchell on the field. It is ok to have a good backup QB that is JUST a backup QB.
 
Use him were? He's stuck behind a really good QB. We have plenty of good wide receivers and running backs. We also have plenty of good athletes that don't see the field at other positions as well and no one cares. I don't get the infatuation with trying to get Mitchell on the field. It is ok to have a good backup QB that is JUST a backup QB.
Which “other” guys are sitting on the bench never playing that are anywhere close to Mitchell? As has been stated by coaches, Mitchell is a better athlete than nearly all of those guys, as well as the WR and running backs you mentioned.

This is an offense that has repeatedly struggled to score and make big plays, even with guys like DM and Butler. Particularly against defenses that know what we run. It’s not complicated- like most playmaking backups, a guy like Mitchell would add value seeing the field at times with Purdy, and perhaps on a small number of plays without Purdy.
 
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It's hard to gauge how good he is based on today. He looked really good at times - deceptively quick and that one TD run whatever he did was crazy. Never really seen that done in football before - takes a ton of control and core strength to pull that off so smoothly.

ULM though is not necessarily one of those top mid major type of teams - even if they took Florida State to OT last week and almost beat them (who beat Louisville today - though not saying much).

I think ISU should try and use him on a few trick type of plays just to see what he can do against some better competition.
 
Didnt Boise is 2 qbs back in lile 2006 or 7? They did decent.
OU did will with Landry and Bell.

Just saying

Couldn’t find any stats to back up the Boise St situation and OU did basically the LanRam package with Bell (Belldozer package I believe). Used him a direct snap RB. He only threw 16 passes that year. Ran it 75 times.

You’re going with injury risk? You must be surprised they played him in meaningless garbage time then.
But right, although we can risk injury to Mitchell in meaningless time, we should not risk injury in meaningful time (thereby also reducing Purdy’s injury risk). I guess we better play Kolar instead, lol.

Also, you must not recall Lanning was the starting MLB with no one behind him. We couldn’t afford to lose him. Mitchell isn’t anywhere near that valuable as the (maybe) backup QB. But he is a playmaker.

Mitchell is much more valuable coming in and making the defense prepare for a run/pass/catch wildcard than he is as backup QB that only sees garbage time. You do realize you can use Mitchell differently than LanRam?? In fact, hopefully it wouldn’t be in such transparent “package” plays, but replacing Jones as the motion receiver.

You obviously want your backup QB to get snaps at QB especially when the game is decided. Game snaps are important for a young players development at his primary position.

ISU has high quality skill guys at every spot on the field, why waste valuable prep time moving your backup QB to a position that is filled by a guy who can do the job better, because that’s what he works on day in and day out? Sometimes a backup QB can just be a backup QB and be ready to go when his number is called.

If he wants to change positions at some point fine, but my guess is he would have done that this year if that’s what he wanted to do.
 
I could see using him the way we used Joel Lanning, different playset maybe.

I don't really think he has what it takes to play linebacker..

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Which “other” guys are sitting on the bench never playing that are anywhere close to Mitchell? As has been stated by coaches, Mitchell is a better athlete than nearly all of those guys, as well as the WR and running backs you mentioned.

This is an offense that has repeatedly struggled to score and make big plays, even with guys like DM and Butler. Particularly against defenses that know what we run. It’s not complicated- like most playmaking backups, a guy like Mitchell would add value seeing the field at times with Purdy, and perhaps on a small number of plays without Purdy.

1) He torched a gassed, 4th quarter ULM team - not OU or Texas.
2) You're assuming he'd be interested in playing a RB/WR position - has he said as much? Maybe he's one of those guys who decides he wants to be QB or nothing.
3) You're also assuming he can catch. Maybe they've tried putting him in other packages in practice & he has hands of stone?

End of the day, I trust CMC will do what's best for the team. Whether that's getting Re-al on the field more, or keeping our record breaking QB in until the game is in hand.
 
When George Amundsen was a So., we had two quarterbacks; George and Dean Carlson who was a Jr. Both were huge for quarterbacks back then. Sometimes we had both on the field and used a: fake hand-off and run, hand-off and run, hand-off and pass, or double pass.

The following year, George went to running back exclusively and became Iowa State's first 1,000 yard rusher (I think in only 10 or 11 games which is all the regular season was back then). He did go back to quarterback his senior year.
 
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We are going to take snaps away from a guy who just broke the single game yardage record and scored 6 touchdowns in 3 quarters? Don't see it.

Just to clarify ... Purdy broke the single game total yardage record today? Is that right?

Is the single game passing yardage record still held by Arnaud?
 

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