We contemplated an Odyessey when we got a new van, but stuck with Toyota. Enough things changed on the models that it was slightly annoying, though. The old van we had you could position one of the middle row captain's chairs in the middle position. This gave you a nice opening to the back seat, which was very nice. The model we have does not have that--the seats are stationary (you can also add a 3rd small "jump seat" to the middle row). So when I help carpool older girls they have to squeeze past a kid in a carseat to get to the back row. There is also a big recall on the auto doors potentially opening while driving with no fix yet.