Major college sports has become a HUGE business. Players want/need to market themselves properly for not only making it to the next level, but being able to cash in on endorsements. You can do that by going to Duke, UNC, KU, etc......because ESPN is going to hype the hell out of you. You will be on national t.v. nearly every game. You will be on all of their highlights and game promos. Iowa State just can not compete with that. I find myself getting a little disenchanted with college sports. It is all about money --- and the rich just continue getting richer.
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Major college sports has become a HUGE business. Players want/need to market themselves properly for not only making it to the next level, but being able to cash in on endorsements. You can do that by going to Duke, UNC, KU, etc......because ESPN is going to hype the hell out of you. You will be on national t.v. nearly every game. You will be on all of their highlights and game promos. Iowa State just can not compete with that. I find myself getting a little disenchanted with college sports. It is all about money --- and the rich just continue getting richer.
If we could only find more players like Brackins. He took a risk far before this team was even near quality and tournament run. He went with the what could be instead of what already is. And look at the hype he's recieved. A well deserved, hard fought attention that may gain him the respect of being one of the best players to come out of ISU. Along the sides of Thompson, Hornecek, Hoieberg, and Fizer (excuse the spelling).
Lol. That's who I'm referring too. I hope he's sore from the plane ride and needs and adjustment. Ill fix him up nice and good. Jimlad.
This is an interesting conversation and one everyone has discussed over the last months with HB. I have been a die hard ISU fan since I can remember. BUT if my kid was the #1 recruit in the country and ISU had been having seasons like this the last three years, coupled with Brackins and probably Gilstrap leaving, I would think hard about thier decision. It's NORTH CAROLINA people!! Who gets to talk with MJ, Dean Smith, et al.
As much as we all wanted this to happen, it is impossible to say he made a bad decision. If he plays one year of college why not try to win a national title, instead of trying to make the NCAA's. I'm also not so sure HB wants to be THE savior - much easier to fit into NC than be a "god" in Ames.
As much as we all wanted this to happen, it is impossible to say he made a bad decision. If he plays one year of college why not try to win a national title, instead of trying to make the NCAA's. I'm also not so sure HB wants to be THE savior - much easier to fit into NC than be a "god" in Ames.
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I think that last sentence. Everything the guy said he wanted was right here. Relationship with coach, relationship with players, competitiveness (and it's just getting better).
No way this is a Mac problem. HB was apparently not going to see past Carolina blue, which is his choice.
Probably true and something I know if I was in that situation probably wouldn't want to be in either.
But this conversation goes beyond just HB. There just always seems to be that one thing that's always missing at ISU. As many coaches and media personalities have said, it's very hard to recruit here. The moment we think we got one the coach leaves, get's fired, or just not the right time.
So maybe back to the orignal post. Can ISU get to that point, where someday we'll be the coach on the skype screen? Maybe Brackins was that way, and sounds like Colvin was as well.
Not getting HB stinks, but I always remember that having Hinrich go to KU indirectly brought Tinsley to ISU, and we all know how that turned out. Not saying that's going to happen again, but things have a strange way of working out when all of the dominoes stop falling.
Who knows? Maybe Jok sees today's drama and resolves to play in-state and make his near hometown team a power. Maybe getting two years out of Demarcus Phillips is a net gain if Barnes only spends one year in college. It's funny how things work out sometimes. Keep the faith, Clones.
Who knows? Maybe Jok sees today's drama and resolves to play in-state and make his near hometown team a power. Maybe getting two years out of Demarcus Phillips is a net gain if Barnes only spends one year in college. It's funny how things work out sometimes. Keep the faith, Clones.
If that way of announcing a commitment catches on I would lose a lot of respect for college basketball.
Agree, or course my statement was just a hypothetical statement.
Or the ones the pretend to put a hat on to only throw it to the side like it's nothing.
Seems like all we can hope for is that Roy loses a lot of money at Prairie Meadows every time he comes to Iowa to poach our home grown talent. Its the only benefit we get out of said talent.
This!
Tinsley and company owned Hinrich, Collison and Williams. So much so, like I said in another thread, when they finally beat us at Hilton......Drew Gooden slammed the ball at mid court, flipped everyone in Hilton off...and Roy just smiled and shrugged his shoulders. After today, I am beginning to think that maybe some of Roy has already rubbed off on Harrison.
Well forgetting Harrison Barnes, since he couldn't see past the Carolina blue, what about the next batch of recruits coming up???
You have to think, as cut throat as recruiting is, that this fact (not being able to sign this kid) won't be used over and over against us in the homes of kids we are after.
Again, add in all of the player defections, and the near already near decommit of Wes Staten and it is truly scary to think of the potential long term consequences of this decision. That makes it a Mac problem......
It is so important that we are successful this year. Also it is possibly even more important that Greg shows that he is truly committed to this new uptempo game.
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Because the youth of today want instant gratification. In this case he wanted to go to a College that could be playing in the final 4 immediately. They want the easy road, the path of least resistance. Truth is, If HB is as good as advertised he would have made the NBA at ISU as easily as NC. Actually what he didn't understand is that he would of gotten perhaps MORE attention if he stayed home. Look at Larry Bird alla Indiana State? He was highly publisized as he took a average team and made it to the finals. HB was in a position to make as much noise but he chose to go with the instant gratification like many others his age.
I personally feel that he should of given back to the community that has shaped him into the fine person that he is. He seems to be a great kid. Problen is he is just that, a great kid. Helping build a program will give you more satisfaction than being one of many players in an already great program. That mindset however is an adult's mindset, something we all learn over time not the thoughts of a 17 year old kid no matter how great he is. There is something to be learned by living long and going to the school of hard knocks. We can't expect a person like HB to at his age to understand that many of us would of loved him to stay and help ISU become elite. He chose to go to an already elite team, one who really doesn't need him, one where he can be replaced in a moment,however one where he does receive what he yearns for like many of our youth........ Instant gratification!
Salesmanship is telling someone to "go to hell" and have them looking forward to the trip. Perhaps a few good salesman should of been the order of the day.
And so it goes.............. IB
IMO, it's like going to play for the Yankees. If you are just one member of a completely loaded team, one that has WAY more talent than anyone else, then what are you really accomplishing by winning a title?
I was thinking this to myself after the Yankees won the World Series. What great accomplishment is it for someone like ARod to win a title playing on that team? It's like the varsity team beating the sophomore team.... big deal.
If Harrison really wanted to make a legacy for himself, if he really wanted a true challenge, if he really wanted to prove just how good he really is, he would have chosen ISU. If he were able to take ISU to the Final Four, he'd be on the cover of every sports magazine there is. But as a Tar Heel, it's no big deal to go to the Final Four... it's expected. There might be 6-7 guys on UNC's team better than Harrison is. I hope he realizes that. And I hope he understands that nobody will be impressed if he wins a championship there. Like I said, it will be expected. Anything short of a championship and people in Chapel Hill will be disappointed in you. Good luck.