Pollard on kxno right now

[BCClone]

I know one who went to DMAAC even though he wants to be an engineer and all his classes were online while his friend that went to ISU at least had some in person classes. Don’t see the point of core engineering classes online at DMAAC. If you aren’t solid in those early calculus and physics classes you are not gonna make it

My son and most that I talked to (I will say two kids who go to MN said the same thing) that it’s very difficult to interact and connecting with professors was basically email and the responses were slow at best (probably since they had several to respond to since it was the only way) to get. The marginal students in their major may suffer. My son is fortunate that he is in my same major and I have a strong economics understanding to assist him, many don’t have that.

His roommate showed up at the beginning and was half and half, by the end of week twohis three in person professors told him the were opposed to inperson and they were going on line. This kid is working to pay his way and could have spent another year at NIACC for 1/4 the cost, but that move trapped him right there. The university needs to have the instructors determine before class if they will on online or inperson so students know.

 

[CycloneErik]

My son and most that I talked to (I will say two kids who go to MN said the same thing) that it’s very difficult to interact and connecting with professors was basically email and the responses were slow at best (probably since they had several to respond to since it was the only way) to get. The marginal students in their major may suffer. My son is fortunate that he is in my same major and I have a strong economics understanding to assist him, many don’t have that.

His roommate showed up at the beginning and was half and half, by the end of week twohis three in person professors told him the were opposed to inperson and they were going on line. This kid is working to pay his way and could have spent another year at NIACC for 1/4 the cost, but that move trapped him right there. The university needs to have the instructors determine before class if they will on online or inperson so students know.

Not up to instructors. They made their requests, but those decisions were made beyond department levels, and before the semester began.

 

[BCClone]

Not up to instructors. They made their requests, but those decisions were made beyond department levels, and before the semester began.

Then why did some start and switch two weeks in?

 

[CycloneErik]

Then why did some start and switch two weeks in?

Don't know. Last I heard, that was never an option.

 

[carvers4math]

My son and most that I talked to (I will say two kids who go to MN said the same thing) that it’s very difficult to interact and connecting with professors was basically email and the responses were slow at best (probably since they had several to respond to since it was the only way) to get. The marginal students in their major may suffer. My son is fortunate that he is in my same major and I have a strong economics understanding to assist him, many don’t have that.

His roommate showed up at the beginning and was half and half, by the end of week twohis three in person professors told him the were opposed to inperson and they were going on line. This kid is working to pay his way and could have spent another year at NIACC for 1/4 the cost, but that move trapped him right there. The university needs to have the instructors determine before class if they will on online or inperson so students know.

I really worry about the quality at the community colleges. The instructors are not all Erik. They don’t pay squat and rely on tons of adjuncts so they don’t have to pay benefits. DMAAC has repeatedly tried to get my brother to teach math courses and he’s a retired high school teacher with a bachelor’s degree in math. What they were going to pay him wasn’t worth the drive.

Second oldest with an engineering degree had a friend that went a year at Indian Hills even though he wanted to be an engineer. Wound up in school six years. I don’t think that year at the Hills really saved him anything.

The friend’s kid that went to DMACC this year had already signed a lease so paying Ankeny rent to take online classes from underpaid adjunct instructors.

 

[alarson]

The intent of the entertainment district was to be a money maker for the Athletic Department. If I remember correctly, the area was going to be more than an entertainment center. Also a convention center with hotel and meeting/exhibition space. IMO a good incremental use of Hilton, Schemann and CY Stephens.

Yeah, if you look around ames, there really isnt much left in terms of developable high-traffic commercial land. With the right plan, it seems like that area could be very valuable.

For instance, look at the district at prairie trail in Ankeny. That area has all kinds of shops and offices that generate revenue year-round, but also holds events (there was a huge concert there back in 2019, for instance). That area is comparable in size to the ISC parking lot. Drop a version of that tweaked to fit its surrounding area better and it could do well (The study they were conducting would tell a lot more on the feasibility of that)

 

[BCClone]

I really worry about the quality at the community colleges. The instructors are not all Erik. They don’t pay squat and rely on tons of adjuncts so they don’t have to pay benefits. DMAAC has repeatedly tried to get my brother to teach math courses and he’s a retired high school teacher with a bachelor’s degree in math. What they were going to pay him wasn’t worth the drive.

Second oldest with an engineering degree had a friend that went a year at Indian Hills even though he wanted to be an engineer. Wound up in school six years. I don’t think that year at the Hills really saved him anything.

The friend’s kid that went to DMACC this year had already signed a lease so paying Ankeny rent to take online classes from underpaid adjunct instructors.

I agree but for a business degree, that chemistry class, speech class, or electives class won’t affect your core knowledge situation but can cheapen things up. It’s not just community colleges. I taught at a private school with only a bachelors so it happens elsewhere also.

My oldest could cut costs at places like SW MN or NW Missouri state and still have a quality education. These online classes are not as good. I sat in the background when the son came home a bit for a couple classes and it was far from the same as in person. One teacher said he never taught the class he was teaching and didn’t really understand it. Son saidthe instructor even said he he borrowed the slides from the other instructor and would just read from them. Son said there were several instances where it was obvious the teacher didn’t understand the slides. This was ISU, not a CC. Throw on top that the semester was cut one week, it effectively is like leaving a bag of chips at $3.99 but cutting the weight 7%.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

The rare triple down.

I was quite impressed by the way that he justifies it by claiming people earning anywhere from 40K to 120K should be absolutely happy to give 5-10K of that up to make sure someone else gets 6M.

 

[carvers4math]

I agree but for a business degree, that chemistry class, speech class, or electives class won’t affect your core knowledge situation but can cheapen things up. It’s not just community colleges. I taught at a private school with only a bachelors so it happens elsewhere also.

My oldest could cut costs at places like SW MN or NW Missouri state and still have a quality education. These online classes are not as good. I sat in the background when the son came home a bit for a couple classes and it was far from the same as in person. One teacher said he never taught the class he was teaching and didn’t really understand it. Son saidthe instructor even said he he borrowed the slides from the other instructor and would just read from them. Son said there were several instances where it was obvious the teacher didn’t understand the slides. This was ISU, not a CC. Throw on top that the semester was cut one week, it effectively is like leaving a bag of chips at $3.99 but cutting the weight 7%.

My kids that went to ISU took most of their electives for free in high school through dual enrollment classes. Took four years of high school Spanish to meet College of Engineering language requirement. Took dual enrollment college writing I and II in high school too. If your high school has a few teachers with Masters, very easy to get all the fluff classes done through dual enrollment and it costs the student nothing.

 

[cyclone87]

I agree but for a business degree, that chemistry class, speech class, or electives class won’t affect your core knowledge situation but can cheapen things up. It’s not just community colleges. I taught at a private school with only a bachelors so it happens elsewhere also.

My oldest could cut costs at places like SW MN or NW Missouri state and still have a quality education. These online classes are not as good. I sat in the background when the son came home a bit for a couple classes and it was far from the same as in person. One teacher said he never taught the class he was teaching and didn’t really understand it. Son saidthe instructor even said he he borrowed the slides from the other instructor and would just read from them. Son said there were several instances where it was obvious the teacher didn’t understand the slides. This was ISU, not a CC. Throw on top that the semester was cut one week, it effectively is like leaving a bag of chips at $3.99 but cutting the weight 7%.

CC and universities alike have struggled through this year same with k-12 schools that went online. It sucks, but it’s temporary and I think next year will be much more normal (mostly in-person). Also, it’s not like ISU is raking it in, they have had to make serious cuts and delay projects.

 

[carvers4math]

I was quite impressed by the way that he justifies it by claiming people earning anywhere from 40K to 120K should be absolutely happy to give 5-10K of that up to make sure someone else gets 6M.

I enjoyed how the exercise of your first amendment rights of speech. petition, and assembly gets you a higher cut to your lower middle class salary.

 

[BCClone]

My kids that went to ISU took most of their electives for free in high school through dual enrollment classes. Took four years of high school Spanish to meet College of Engineering language requirement. Took dual enrollment college writing I and II in high school too. If your high school has a few teachers with Masters, very easy to get all the fluff classes done through dual enrollment and it costs the student nothing.

My oldest had 24 credits upon enrollment from NIACC and my daughter will have 21 from NIACC with most online. Was supposed to be half and half but got changed due to Covid. She will have most of her humanities, global, diversity type classes done. I wanted to leave a few electives on the table since she isn’t 100% certain on which business field she wants.

 

[Clone9]

I agree but for a business degree, that chemistry class, speech class, or electives class won’t affect your core knowledge situation but can cheapen things up. It’s not just community colleges. I taught at a private school with only a bachelors so it happens elsewhere also.

My oldest could cut costs at places like SW MN or NW Missouri state and still have a quality education. These online classes are not as good. I sat in the background when the son came home a bit for a couple classes and it was far from the same as in person. One teacher said he never taught the class he was teaching and didn’t really understand it. Son saidthe instructor even said he he borrowed the slides from the other instructor and would just read from them. Son said there were several instances where it was obvious the teacher didn’t understand the slides. This was ISU, not a CC. Throw on top that the semester was cut one week, it effectively is like leaving a bag of chips at $3.99 but cutting the weight 7%.

If you think this only happens in online courses, you’re very mistaken...

 

[BCClone]

CC and universities alike have struggled through this year same with k-12 schools that went online. It sucks, but it’s temporary and I think next year will be much more normal (mostly in-person). Also, it’s not like ISU is raking it in, they have had to make serious cuts and delay projects.

So it should be ok to pay the same amount for an inferior product? If you buy a brand new car and when you show up they hand you the keys to a 2017 with 35,000 miles on it and gives you no refund, would you say that’s ok, the car industry has been struggling?

 

[BCClone]

If you think this only happens in online courses, you’re very mistaken...

Most likely not, but you can at least ask questions, find a tutor on campus or ask a classmate if you have a question. Maybe go to the professors office if that helps you. That is what you pay the extra for for in person. Along with networking and collaboration. None of this is happening.

 

[WIB]

I didn't hear the interview, but I do know that Campbell went nuclear on the team and staff a month ago saying he wasn't leaving and if anyone thought he was then he didn't want them around.

 

[Clone9]

Most likely not, but you can at least ask questions, find a tutor on campus or ask a classmate if you have a question. Maybe go to the professors office if that helps you. That is what you pay the extra for for in person. Along with networking and collaboration. None of this is happening.

I definitely agree. Not near the value. But not all instructors at ISU know what they’re talking about or make their own lectures.

 

[BCClone]

Honestly, we are talking 5MM/year to get him in the top levels and the assistants in competitive area. If we can’t drum up $5 MM in donations or ticket sales if we needed to to be a regular CCG participant, we might as well go back to being a BB school. If we are competing there, 4 star and 5 stars will be interested. We all need to get serious here and not be cheap.

 

[carvers4math]

I agree but for a business degree, that chemistry class, speech class, or electives class won’t affect your core knowledge situation but can cheapen things up. It’s not just community colleges. I taught at a private school with only a bachelors so it happens elsewhere also.

My oldest could cut costs at places like SW MN or NW Missouri state and still have a quality education. These online classes are not as good. I sat in the background when the son came home a bit for a couple classes and it was far from the same as in person. One teacher said he never taught the class he was teaching and didn’t really understand it. Son saidthe instructor even said he he borrowed the slides from the other instructor and would just read from them. Son said there were several instances where it was obvious the teacher didn’t understand the slides. This was ISU, not a CC. Throw on top that the semester was cut one week, it effectively is like leaving a bag of chips at $3.99 but cutting the weight 7%.

You have to be pretty cautious on the cost cutting. Friend’s kid at NW Mo St had a large bulk of aid package in work study but they didn’t have near as many work study jobs as they promised. So he has a ton of loans.

 

[BCClone]

You have to be pretty cautious on the cost cutting. Friend’s kid at NW Mo St had a large bulk of aid package in work study but they didn’t have near as many work study jobs as they promised. So he has a ton of loans.

For him it would have been best if he was laid off and he collected the unemployment from Covid.