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I'm sure they will. I'm also sure they will ask JP for direct quotes. I'm pretty sure JP will give them to the DMR.
Yeah, I just tuned in when Miller threw Pollard under the bus when talking to the mmmkay BIG 10 guy (can't think of his name ATM Ken something?). Anyway, the guy had no clue on how to react. I thought it was awkward.
Which part isn't going to happen? Decline in enrollment, playing players, or the decline of college sports?
Totally agree with Pollard. I'm all for a stipend, but they would need a set limit and it would have to be for all sports or nothing. Let each school decide. You can't do just FB and Mbb. If you do, the lawsuits will start up because who's to say that a FB player works harder than a soccer player or swimmer?
i do think that if they ever get into paying players for autographs or jersey sales, the opportunity for corruption will be too large and cfb will eventually fall apart. Let them have their stipend and call it good.
i do think that if they ever get into paying players for autographs or jersey sales, the opportunity for corruption will be too large and cfb will eventually fall apart. Let them have their stipend and call it good.
It goes back to when Perrault was his co-host. Pollard (and everyone else) did not like Perrault, and refused to ever go on their show. Because of that, Perrault and Miller (more Perrault) would trash Pollard at every chance.
He's not wrong. I love it when a former athlete talks about looking at all that money their making for the school argument.
Ever heard of an unpaid internship? No one is forcing you to play college sports. If you're good enough to get paid by all means go play somewhere that will pay you. You chose to go to the NCAA because you have realized it's the best choice for your future. I chose Iowa State because a 4 year degree led me down a career bath better than going straight into the workforce after high school. It's the same decision.
What's that? You aren't good enough to leave high school and go play pro? So you're kind of benefiting from the facilities and training you're getting in college? Kind of like an unpaid internship. Then there's the fallacy that you're entitled to what you make your company or school. There hasn't been a year since I graduated where I didn't generate way more revenue or cost savings for my employer than I was paid. Believe it or not that's the real world. Then there's the repeated lack of paying attention to the fact that the education is free. Average college student graduates with over $30K in debt. The average cost for room and board for a 4 year institution is over $20K. I guess that 80-100K you get to play sports doesn't count. Also, ask all the PHD candidates how much cash they're rolling in for their breakthroughs.
So I leave it with this suggestion. Strip all athletic scholarships, they pay for tuition and lodging just like every other student. Pay each athlete (no longer student athlete) the average cost of room and board nationwide. Then we can start having a conversation about what their play is worth. Since the athletes that are a part of the APU movement are ignoring the value of the diploma. In the meantime require they maintain good academic standing because the fact that fans have driven up revenue for the athletics departments doesn't change the mission and purpose of the institutions.
And oh by the way...I would go watch ISU play even if there weren't a superstar there slick. Iowa State as a whole is a prime example of this. Over the last 4 years fans have shown up in record numbers for a football team that over that period is under 500. If it was the players making me show and they were being paid to do what they do I'd probably expect to see a hell of a lot more empty seats. Arrowhead stadium isn't selling out when there's been 7 years in a row of .500 football. The idea that it is player talent driving revenue is whack. There were great players in the 70s, that didn't drive up the revenue. The difference has been the media outlets and the advent of technologies like DVR. The only market for live television any more that secures viewers is sports. The DVR, netflix, amazon video, hulu are more responsible for raising the revenue of athletics departments than the players. The overall talent of players hasn't changed dramatically in the last 15 years.
Ever heard of an unpaid internship? No one is forcing you to play college sports. If you're good enough to get paid by all means go play somewhere that will pay you. You chose to go to the NCAA because you have realized it's the best choice for your future. I chose Iowa State because a 4 year degree led me down a career bath better than going straight into the workforce after high school. It's the same decision.
What's that? You aren't good enough to leave high school and go play pro? So you're kind of benefiting from the facilities and training you're getting in college? Kind of like an unpaid internship. Then there's the fallacy that you're entitled to what you make your company or school. There hasn't been a year since I graduated where I didn't generate way more revenue or cost savings for my employer than I was paid. Believe it or not that's the real world. Then there's the repeated lack of paying attention to the fact that the education is free. Average college student graduates with over $30K in debt. The average cost for room and board for a 4 year institution is over $20K. I guess that 80-100K you get to play sports doesn't count. Also, ask all the PHD candidates how much cash they're rolling in for their breakthroughs.
So I leave it with this suggestion. Strip all athletic scholarships, they pay for tuition and lodging just like every other student. Pay each athlete (no longer student athlete) the average cost of room and board nationwide. Then we can start having a conversation about what their play is worth. Since the athletes that are a part of the APU movement are ignoring the value of the diploma. In the meantime require they maintain good academic standing because the fact that fans have driven up revenue for the athletics departments doesn't change the mission and purpose of the institutions.
And oh by the way...I would go watch ISU play even if there weren't a superstar there slick. Iowa State as a whole is a prime example of this. Over the last 4 years fans have shown up in record numbers for a football team that over that period is under 500. If it was the players making me show and they were being paid to do what they do I'd probably expect to see a hell of a lot more empty seats. Arrowhead stadium isn't selling out when there's been 7 years in a row of .500 football. The idea that it is player talent driving revenue is whack. There were great players in the 70s, that didn't drive up the revenue. The difference has been the media outlets and the advent of technologies like DVR. The only market for live television any more that secures viewers is sports. The DVR, netflix, amazon video, hulu are more responsible for raising the revenue of athletics departments than the players. The overall talent of players hasn't changed dramatically in the last 15 years.
Let alone it creates an instant recruiting advantage for the rich (Texas), and hurts the poor (Iowa State)
Aren't we basically talking about an extra $2500 per year. Just enough to cover the extra meals that athletes can't cover through a part time job that they aren't afforded? Their scholly's cover only one meal a day.
1. The players are compensated VERY well. Tuition (id love to not have student loans to pay off), room and board, stipends, the best academic assistance available, etc. Additionally they get training and visibility that helps the elites (the ones actually worth any payment) get to the next level, the level that really pays off. Theyre getting compensated more than most students get at their first jobs out of college. Acting like theyre not being paid just because they dont get massive paychecks is a joke.
2. If they want to get paid immediately, there are other options. Go play internationally, or even arena football. But that obviously doesnt have the benefits playing for a university does (so more evidence they ARE being treated fairly!). But if you dont like the compensation, feel free to go somewhere else, there are options if you are good enough.
3. The 'elite' media is beating this drum to pay the players. They care insanely little about smaller schools and smaller sports. They'd probably be fine if college football was more of an NFL sized league. So theyre fine with creating an elite group that can afford to pay players massive amounts. They beat the drum about the playoff as well, and you can bet they'll be beating the drum to expand that playoff at the expense of the bowl system, because, again, they dont care about anyone outside the top.
2. If they want to get paid immediately, there are other options. Go play internationally, or even arena football. But that obviously doesnt have the benefits playing for a university does (so more evidence they ARE being treated fairly!). But if you dont like the compensation, feel free to go somewhere else, there are options if you are good enough.
3. The 'elite' media is beating this drum to pay the players. They care insanely little about smaller schools and smaller sports. They'd probably be fine if college football was more of an NFL sized league. So theyre fine with creating an elite group that can afford to pay players massive amounts. They beat the drum about the playoff as well, and you can bet they'll be beating the drum to expand that playoff at the expense of the bowl system, because, again, they dont care about anyone outside the top.
15.2.2 Room and Board.
An institution may provide a student-athlete financial aid that includes the cost of room and board, based on the official allowance for a room as listed in the institution’s official publication (e.g., catalog) and a board allowance that consists of three meals per day, even if the institution’s maximum permissible award allowance for all students represents a lesser cost figure.
15.2.2.1 Off-Campus Room and Board Stipend.
If a student-athlete lives and eats in noninstitutional facilities, the institution may provide the student-athlete an amount equal to the institution’s official on-campus room allowance as listed in its catalog, the average of the room costs of all of its students living on campus or the cost of room as calculated based on its policies and procedures for calculating the cost of attendance for all students. The institution also may provide the student-athlete an amount that is equivalent to an on-campus seven-day or 21-meal board plan or the cost of meals as calculated based on its policies and procedures for calculating the cost of attendance for all students, excluding those meals provided as part of the training table. Meals provided on the training table shall be deducted at the regular cost figure from such a student athlete’s board allowance.
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They can also apply for grants/loans and food stamps, just like any other college student.
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Decline in enrollment, decline in college sports. As far as playing players I dont know what you mean.
I have employed several football players. Why do you think they aren't afforded part time jobs?
