Pollard on Cydline show?
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Lets wait and see how they do after losing Reesing, Briscoe, and Meier before we say they are doing ok... I think they failed to capitalize on the momentum they built on a great class by not doing the necessary facilities upgrages. They will be back to the bottom of the pack next year and I wouldn't be suprised to see Mangino walk out the door with those three.
Maybe the previous athletic director didn't beleive Assistant coach salaries was a priority? Or maybe he was too busy with his red pen to go out and raise some money.
Thats still almost pushing it. However, I didn't know they were classy enough down in Kansas to have french doors.
I also, would like to see an improvement to the Sound System. I think that would be $$$ well spent.
$60 MM to Bowl in the Stadium, that seems Crazy. It's just concrete and seats. ISU could do their End-Zone just like K-State, its nice and looks good.
This is flat out not true. I hate to bring up a topic that was beat to death for weeks here but how many people would have shown up on November 28th (Saturday after Thanksgiving) to see 2 bottom dweller in the Big 12 play?
Remember, we couldn't even get 40,000 on that same date playing Missouri for a spot in the Big 12 title game on the line a few years prior.
The KC deal was an absolute no brainer for an AD that NEEDS money.
What are you talking about, those la-z-boys in the end zone make Memorial Stadium look big time....those are quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen done to a football stadium. But hey for 30k you too can sit in a recliner to watch football outside!
I've thought this too. It is just concrete and seats. If I'm not mistaken, the 60 million for this project includes concessions behind the seats, an ISU apparel store, suites and more bathrooms? Right? Why can't they just work on the lower level here...(concrete and seats) and build up when they can....then add your extra concessions, suites...etc.? The bottem level needs to be the foundation anyway right?
I think JP had to do it, but he took a pretty big gamble when he replaced McCarney with Chizik. When he made the move, he was able to justify doing a lot of things from a monetary perspective that he probably couldn't before. Unfortunately, by the end of two years it became obvious to everyone including the cheerleaders that the coaching staff wasn't getting it done. Before we could even try getting some better assistants in there, Chizik bolts for Auburn and throws a big wrench into the whole rebuilding process. By that point, a lot of money has been spent and needs to be recouped, and the results on the field still haven't caught up with the prices being charged, as Jamie probably had hoped for.
Rhoads and his staff have to bring up the level of winning and competitiveness pretty quickly, or I can imagine the fan support slipping quite a bit in the next few years. I really hope the balls start bouncing our way more often on Saturdays, because we are overdue for a little luck.
Rhoads and his staff have to bring up the level of winning and competitiveness pretty quickly, or I can imagine the fan support slipping quite a bit in the next few years. I really hope the balls start bouncing our way more often on Saturdays, because we are overdue for a little luck.
Just nice to see that at least 1 poster knows how to designate millions in an estimate.
I see far too many incorrect uses of the single M when dealing with millions.
Just a refresher for anyone writing or reading a construction estimate:
M = Thousands
MM = Millions
It's understandable if someone has never been exposed to the established terminology for writing project estimates. If it's a texting culture issue, however, put out a little extra effort and hit that thumb a second time.
Because most people spend a lot of time studying construction estimates...I mean come on, this is worse than people correcting other poster's grammar.
Sorry that I hit your over the top button. Just trying to educate some of the masses willing to listen. Next time you see a grammar error off by a factor of 1000, get back to me. :wink:
Its almost like they need to split the Endzone project up and just scrap the upper deck and suites for later. (that would save a ton of money) I would be interested in knowing what it would cost to just do the lower bowl in the South and the North Hills corners and upgrade the Audio and Video.
My guess it would be $10 Million for A/V (which would be an insane upgrade for us) and $20-25 Million for New seats and South Concourse? ( I don't know construction though)
We spent only $12 Million for the East Concourse which included destruction of all those old concession stands, building up the concourse, making new very nice consession/restrooms and plaza and New Entry ways etcc. I can't see how doing this smaller version would come close to $65 Million.
We are supposively in tight with several contruction companies right?
So....
- don't do the upper deck but design it to add on later.
- build up the South Concourse with a few concession stands for continous flow
- install the South Endzone similiar to the 1st Drawing that was proposed that was basically a spinoff of Gene's Smiths idea.
- No suites, but build the structure to add them later.
- Fill in the North Hills in so we lose the Hill jokes and the stadium has a better feel. (make them cheap General addmission seating so people with families don't freak out) AND I am one with a family by the way....
- New Sound and Video. (put the old score board on the opposite side as the new scoreboard) (This would probably run $10 Million just by judging by the Minnesota Stadium)
- Spend a little money and get the Football offices and lockerrooms really pimped out (I don't think people realize how much this means to recruits)
so $30 or 40 Million would be more attainable with a Big donor opposed to $65 Million.
That would put the stadium at about 52,000 -54,000 physical seats and no hills. That is a perfect size for ISU right now. If needing more seats in the future (fingers crossed) then we add on down the road IF Needed.
I mean Central Florida built an entire bowled in 45,000 seat stadium for $54 Million two years ago. Maybe they used sticks and stones I don't know, but it looks nice.
College Gridirons-Conference USA Stadiums-Bright House Networks Stadium-UCF Knights
I think the only way we see results is by splitting up the project and going a little cheaper also. Remember when people were having a frickin cow about how cheap and crappy the basketball facility was going to be. There is no complaining now and it may actually save our program. I think the same thing applies to Football right now. Just a thought.
PLUS....Like people are saying above. We really need to start putting a product on the field.
My guess it would be $10 Million for A/V (which would be an insane upgrade for us) and $20-25 Million for New seats and South Concourse? ( I don't know construction though)
We spent only $12 Million for the East Concourse which included destruction of all those old concession stands, building up the concourse, making new very nice consession/restrooms and plaza and New Entry ways etcc. I can't see how doing this smaller version would come close to $65 Million.
We are supposively in tight with several contruction companies right?
So....
- don't do the upper deck but design it to add on later.
- build up the South Concourse with a few concession stands for continous flow
- install the South Endzone similiar to the 1st Drawing that was proposed that was basically a spinoff of Gene's Smiths idea.
- No suites, but build the structure to add them later.
- Fill in the North Hills in so we lose the Hill jokes and the stadium has a better feel. (make them cheap General addmission seating so people with families don't freak out) AND I am one with a family by the way....
- New Sound and Video. (put the old score board on the opposite side as the new scoreboard) (This would probably run $10 Million just by judging by the Minnesota Stadium)
- Spend a little money and get the Football offices and lockerrooms really pimped out (I don't think people realize how much this means to recruits)
so $30 or 40 Million would be more attainable with a Big donor opposed to $65 Million.
That would put the stadium at about 52,000 -54,000 physical seats and no hills. That is a perfect size for ISU right now. If needing more seats in the future (fingers crossed) then we add on down the road IF Needed.
I mean Central Florida built an entire bowled in 45,000 seat stadium for $54 Million two years ago. Maybe they used sticks and stones I don't know, but it looks nice.
College Gridirons-Conference USA Stadiums-Bright House Networks Stadium-UCF Knights
I think the only way we see results is by splitting up the project and going a little cheaper also. Remember when people were having a frickin cow about how cheap and crappy the basketball facility was going to be. There is no complaining now and it may actually save our program. I think the same thing applies to Football right now. Just a thought.
PLUS....Like people are saying above. We really need to start putting a product on the field.
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How the hell were they able to build an entire stadium for $54M? I wonder if they forgot the 1 in front of the 54. Just doesn't seem possible with the numbers every other stadium construction is throwing around.
Here a better view. Maybe its the way its contructed? I think its all-steel seating.
http://foundation.ucf.edu/Assets/Images/stadium%20rengering.jpg
http://ncaafootball.com/image_lib/stadiums_centralflorida.jpg
Here is a good link also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_House_Networks_Stadium
http://foundation.ucf.edu/Assets/Images/stadium%20rengering.jpg
http://ncaafootball.com/image_lib/stadiums_centralflorida.jpg
Here is a good link also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_House_Networks_Stadium
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Nothing on the inside. This is how I see it playing out.
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And Akron just finished their beautiful stadium, with all those suites, and the end zone football building, for $61 million...
http://www.gozips.com/fls/10800/gameday/default.html
http://www.gozips.com/fls/10800/gameday/default.html
Sounds like Bright House (UCF) really shakes when the fans jump up and down - and not in a good way. Like in a structurally un-sound way. Multiple reviews said otherwise, but they added to the superstructure anyway...