Ok what am i missing with our recruiting?

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And Kennard would have easily been 2 deeps back then. He started over Benton. How you can take Watson, Richardson, and Lynn over Benton right now is beyond me. It's all a what if game. We know depth is better. We don't know talent.

Those guys right now over a sophomore Benton? Hell yeah I would, especially at CB. That's part of the problem. You are measuring these young guys against guys who were farther along.
 
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Cool down the rhetoric in here, guys.
 
Jake Knott was a was a two star and now playing like an all american
Jaques Washinton was a two star and tore it up as a sophmore
just two examples.. and how about that four star stud Sedrick Johnson..

Its about player development and finding the right bodies for a system! Yes Matt Barkley's of the world would be nice to get but will probably never make it here.
 
I have to admit, I am a little concerned. After all, these kids are the exact same type of players that CPR has been recruiting the last three years, maybe only a tiny bit better! Why, there's no WAY that kind of talent could ever, say, upset a Top 5 team!

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I have to admit, I am a little concerned. After all, these kids are the exact same type of players that CPR has been recruiting the last three years, maybe only a tiny bit better! Why, there's no WAY that kind of talent could ever, say, upset a Top 5 team!

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Upsets are all well and good, but we still struggled to win 6 games last year, laying huge eggs against UT and MU. If CPR continues to win 5 to 7 games, then he probably won't be in Ames very long. Is that fair? I don't know, but it's definitely reality.
 
Upsets are all well and good, but we still struggled to win 6 games last year, laying huge eggs against UT and MU. If CPR continues to win 5 to 7 games, then he probably won't be in Ames very long. Is that fair? I don't know, but it's definitely reality.

The players got the wins. We are still blaming the OC Mensa for the losses. And he's gone now, so 12-0 in 2012, baby! :jimlad:
 
We have gotten a lot better recruits the last few years under CPR with actual size that belongs in the Big12 its just a matter of molding them into great players. We haven't been getting the great 4 and 5 star players that can play right out of the gates.

We should really start seeing his players coming along the next few years. Its a process that takes time, but them coming along will improve the team getting us more wins and a better bowl. In turn making ISU a little more desirable and we can get a few recruits who are a little better and can do a little more earlier than these guys we have to develop.

Iowa State shouldn't ever get away from developing low key guys. Thats how Iowa got good in the first place and we are going to have to take the same route. It takes more than just a few years.
 
Upsets are all well and good, but we still struggled to win 6 games last year, laying huge eggs against UT and MU. If CPR continues to win 5 to 7 games, then he probably won't be in Ames very long. Is that fair? I don't know, but it's definitely reality.
You have a strange idea of "reality". It might be a "possibility", but not necessarily even a "liklihood". G'nite, all.
 
Upsets are all well and good, but we still struggled to win 6 games last year, laying huge eggs against UT and MU. If CPR continues to win 5 to 7 games, then he probably won't be in Ames very long. Is that fair? I don't know, but it's definitely reality.

We were favored to win 2 games last year. For us to get to 6 games there would have to be upsets. The fact that we upset 4 teams shows that this program as a whole is trending up. That is a 40% win percentage against teams favored to win. If CPR continues to win 40% of the games he is suppose to lose then I think he has a pretty good future here.
 
We were favored to win 2 games last year. For us to get to 6 games there would have to be upsets. The fact that we upset 4 teams shows that this program as a whole is trending up. That is a 40% win percentage against teams favored to win. If CPR continues to win 40% of the games he is suppose to lose then I think he has a pretty good future here.

Sorry, I can't call wins over UCONN and Texas Tech "upsets" after seeing the season play out. Iowa wasn't all that great either and was a home game so that's probably debatable on the "upset" tag as well.

I think if the program was trending up, we wouldn't be favored to lose 83.3% of the games on our schedule. How many games will we be favored in this year? 2? 3? I'm guessing Tulsa, W. Illinois, and maybe Tech - only because it's at home and early in the season.
 
You have a strange idea of "reality". It might be a "possibility", but not necessarily even a "liklihood". G'nite, all.

McCarney won 50% of all games and ~39% of conference games in his last 6 seasons.

Rhoads has won ~49% of all games and 36% of conference games in his first 3 seasons.

If over the next 3 years, Rhoads is still hovering around 49/36, I think it's definitely reasonable to think he would meet the same fate as a previous coach with roughly the same results under the same athletic director.
 
Upsets are all well and good, but we still struggled to win 6 games last year, laying huge eggs against UT and MU.

To me, the Rutgers game was much more disappointing than UT or MU. Texas and Mizzou have major talent on their rosters, but Rutgers is very much at our level. And yet they controlled almost every aspect of that game.
 
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