Huh? Boren graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Yale - in the top 1% of his class - then was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford where he got his masters - that qualifies as an "academic" in my book..
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Seems that he gave up on all that academic stuff pretty quickly after leaving Oxford in 1965...
- OK House of Representatives 1966-1975
- OK Governor 1975-1979
- OK US Senator 1979-1994
- June 2007 - considered 3rd party presidential run with Michael Bloomberg
- Any other number of political things he's been involved in that you can Google since becoming OU's President,
Qualify him as a politician...
Lately I've been reading the SEC boards and quite a few of them want to make a play for KU and ISU. They feel like it would raise their basketball profile a lot and hurt the big ten.
They seem to believe that the networks will be moving to a subscription service and they know Iowa State would have a fan base that would buy in.
I'm surprised how pro Iowa State they are and out of all the Power conferences I would say they are the most pro Iowa state expansion.
They seem to believe that the networks will be moving to a subscription service and they know Iowa State would have a fan base that would buy in.
I'm surprised how pro Iowa State they are and out of all the Power conferences I would say they are the most pro Iowa state expansion.
Look back at my post history and you'll find I said grab Louisville immediately when they were publicly begging to join a couple years before joining the ACC and just sit on 11 if you have to for a while if no others make sense.
I believe my "learned" self was clearly right and the people running the Big 12 were wrong. Now we're publicly interviewing schools that bring much less to the table than the ACC school that was begging to join. The fact that we're the only conference doing this publicly interview thing as opposed to acting behind the scenes is proof enough that our leadership is playing checkers while the others have been playing chess.
Do you have a link? That is interesting. Never heard anyone in the SEC outside of Kentucky care about basketball.
http://csnbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=246
Some of the basketball talk was on the older threads but they still bring up ISU on the newer threads
This would be a pretty nice landing spot scenario if the Big 12 did dissolve.
Big 10 might even be so concerned about letting the SEC into their footprint they might float us an invite. LMAO
SEC West division with Kansas, Missouri, Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State wouldn't totally suck.
That's good to hear (if SEC interest is true). Adding ISU would also give the SEC entry into a new state which is in Big 10 territory, which would be a plus for them. ISU would (unfortunately) give them another patsy to beat up on and inflate their records.
Iowa State's value right now is that it would be an easy conference W for the SEC. That conference doesn't need any other peers or "power" teams like OU, UT joining, they need an additional conference win. The SEC still plays 8 conference games and will most likely move to 9 in the near-future. Adding a program like Iowa State could be propped up by the SEC as "striving to add high-quality academics" while in reality ISU would replace a sun belt team on the schedules of LSU, Arkansas, A&M, etc. without significantly hurting their strength of schedule.
It will never happen (SEC), but in all honesty ISU/KU would be great. The mid tier programs like Arkansas, A&M, Ole Miss, TN, Mizzou would probably love adding some fairly beatable teams.
I would settle in and accept my role in football if we could model ourselves after Kentucky and KU.
I would settle in and accept my role in football if we could model ourselves after Kentucky and KU.
Interesting note that some SEC/Kentucky fans would consider Cincinnati. Maybe the choices for expansion aren't as bad as some suggest. And maybe the extended GOR isn't as necessary as some also suggest. Just don't buy into all this Oklahoma talk. The press always has a political concern that skews their reporting.
Interesting board...most view us as around the 4th best asset in the Big 12
A conference well known for its football prowess, that could be looking to increase its academic profile and basketball profile, could be interested in two AAU schools with basketball success that border it.
On the flip side, KU offers better basketball and a major rivalry with Mizzou, so they would be the more attractive option. So if the SEC wanted to go to 16 it could just as easily be KU and WVU to get the best of both worlds instead of KU and ISU to get two AAUs.
On the flip side, KU offers better basketball and a major rivalry with Mizzou, so they would be the more attractive option. So if the SEC wanted to go to 16 it could just as easily be KU and WVU to get the best of both worlds instead of KU and ISU to get two AAUs.
KU and ISU to the SEC would be amazing, and that SEC west division would make a tone of sense geographically. SEC gets two AAU schools, KU as a premier brand in basketball, ISU as a good brand in basketball, both with rabid basketball fan bases, and ISU's football fan base as well. The problem is it doesn't move the TV needle very much. The SEC is strong in KC already with MIZZOU. Really only adding maybe 3 million more people.
I'm still thinking in 2020, TV markets aren't going to matter, and big match ups are going to matter for ratings.