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Yeah, the entire ball has to be across the entire line. That's about as close as it gets, but the computer has access to the tech to tell small differences better than that angle.
I think even on that angle it looks in, but only barely, one of the closest I've ever seen.
 
Ridiculously close.

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Let’s have a 197 post debate about it. ;-)
 
VAR is incredible



American football is really behind on this stuff.

They could very easily not only have that type of tech for a number of things but also immediately have some visual tools on screen during broadcasts to help show audience or replay review official that make the “yellow line” look pretty crude. I’m using stuff like that every day to get non technical licensor contacts who may not exactly be engineers to approve 3D sculpts.
 
Well, Germany shouldn't have put themselves in that position. That was their own fault - they lost to Japan in their first game. Spain also spent time passing, passing and passing (and more passing).
Same with Belgium: Lukaku should have converted those chances. They should have beaten Morocco.
Same with Mexico: they got lucky with Ochoa's save against Poland.
 
VAR is incredible


The photo itself is unbelievably accurate. So much so, they took the perspective from immediately above the outside portion of the line which is why the perspective it shows the goal posts leaning right. The 'only' areas left to contend are the 'touch' and the perspective relative to the vanishing point due to the diameter of the ball. But, 'wow' on this technology.
 
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American football is really behind on this stuff.

They could very easily not only have that type of tech for a number of things but also immediately have some visual tools on screen during broadcasts to help show audience or replay review official that make the “yellow line” look pretty crude. I’m using stuff like that every day to get non technical licensor contacts who may not exactly be engineers to approve 3D sculpts.
I always thought it'd be easy to put some sensors on the football. Then you can at least tell if it crossed the goal line or not. Anything dealing with a measurement could be automated if they wanted to. Out of bounds, first down, crossing the goal line, etc... Tennis does it, and now soccer. Pro tennis is starting to not even use line judges any more, just 100% automated.
 
I always thought it'd be easy to put some sensors on the football. Then you can at least tell if it crossed the goal line or not. Anything dealing with a measurement could be automated if they wanted to. Out of bounds, first down, crossing the goal line, etc... Tennis does it, and now soccer. Pro tennis is starting to not even use line judges any more, just 100% automated.

Going to have to put sensors in the pads then too so you know when their knee is down. Or just have pressure sensors on the field to be able to see every foot or knee or hand right as it touches the turf. Or better yet, let's just turn football into eSports and just have them play Madden instead.
 
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Group H final games, 9 AM CT
Portugal vs South Korea
Uruguay vs Ghana

Portugal - through to knockouts

South Korea - through with win + Ghana loss OR
Win by 2 or more + Ghana draw OR
Win by 1 + Ghana draw + gain 4 or more total goals scored

Ghana - through with win OR
Draw + South Korea loss/draw OR
Draw + South Korea win by 1 and not gain total goals for

Uruguay - through with win + South Korea loss/draw OR
Win + South Korea win and win by 2 or more than South Korea wins by
 
I always thought it'd be easy to put some sensors on the football. Then you can at least tell if it crossed the goal line or not. Anything dealing with a measurement could be automated if they wanted to. Out of bounds, first down, crossing the goal line, etc... Tennis does it, and now soccer. Pro tennis is starting to not even use line judges any more, just 100% automated.

I wondered for years if there was a simple way to detect our fg over the upright against Alabama in that early 00s bowl game.

What a lot of people don’t realize is how distorted most images are. That overhead image with the grid on it of that play is exactly what really matters. I use a high end fixed length (no zoom) 50mm lens for any type of hyper accurate photo submission and then lay perspective grids on it like that, I’d love to know how they create that image but my guess is they shoot the photo from an angle and distort it to fit that square grid in software. For 3D sculpts there’s elevation views or isometric views that remove the natural foreshortening/perspective every 3D image needs to look realistic but once you introduce perspective everything is subjective from point of view. Every photo from a tiny lens like even the best smart phone has some level of “walleye vision” that few are aware of, basically the inner most 10% of our iPhone photos are pretty accurate and the rest is distorted to hell.
 
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I wondered for years if there was a simple way to detect our fg over the upright against Alabama in that early 00s bowl game.
Or the Oklahoma State FG @ Iowa State in 2011.

Either way, we need lasers shooting out of the top of the goal posts!
 
I wondered for years if there was a simple way to detect our fg over the upright against Alabama in that early 00s bowl game.
Just put an upward facing camera on top of each goal post. Have it inset to restrict the field of view and problem solved.
 
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