Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

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Re: BLUM: The Mayor's dilemma

"I promise this isn’t a run-of-the-mill throw content against the internet wall to get clicks."

That reminds me of sentences that start with "Not to be racist but..."
 
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Don't agree, but well written.

I just don't see how someone that competitive has done all of this groundwork to hand the keys over in the season with the highest potential. Especially after the way last season ended by finishing second in the league and shooting themselves in the foot in the tourney.
 
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The Kirk comparison is not perfect, but it works. He stuck around, coached his kids, made a butt load of money, kept the program relevant.

However he set the bar high and the fans got stale with the style of play and now have kind of turned on him.

How things are different for Fred are, his style of play is not boring. Recruiting for basketball is a lot different than football - Kirk has never been able to get big time recruits, he has to develop 2/3 stars into NFL players (tougher to do).

If you ask Kirk if he regrets not going to the NFL, but instead made piles of cash and got to coach his kids - i would guess he doesn't regret it much.



Doesn't work at all.

You have to buy into the nonsense that Kurt was ever really an NFL hot commodity.
 
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Fred is going to make a logical decision based upon what is best for his career and family's well-being. None of us know the answer except him. I find it hard to judge a person's career moves because no one knows that person's life 100% except for him.

That being said, Fred knows that once he leaves Iowa State, the likelihood of him returning is pretty slim. He also knows how special of a situation he has here. The right decision will be made by Fred.
 
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Obviously I have no idea what Fred would do. But, whenever I think of an ISU coach going to the NBA, I think of Tim Floyd. He had a stacked team and decided to chase the money. Then his replacement gets all the credit for leading one of the best teams in ISU history. And where is Tim Floyd now? He chased a dollar and ended up pretty obscure now. I know he's still coaching, but don't remember where. I feel he could have been a household name pretty much the rest of his career had he stuck around for a few more years.

Floyd left after a 12-19 year. LE's first year was with Marcus Fizer as a freshmen and they went 16-15 or 15-15. It wasn't until LE's second and third year that the program took off.

I'd really hate to see that happen to Fred. Seems to me, next year's team is setting up to be one of the better teams ever at ISU, that's saying a lot with the recent teams we've had. I would almost think there is something mentally going on with a coach to leave this team. The NBA isn't going anywhere, this opportunity at ISU doesn't come along every year.

That being said, is Fred's future at ISU really an elephant in the room? Weather it's articles or posts, seems crazy to me that we keep bringing up this endless speculation to say, "At the end of the day, no one knows what Fred will do but Fred himself." I'm sorry, but I didn't really feel this article opened up any new doors that someone on here hadn't mentioned before. Don't get me wrong, it was a decent article, but in the end, just seemed like a way to inevitably dig up the same old conversations about Fred that we've had on here 100 times already.

I pondered the situation and believe Fred will be here next year.
 
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Hope TJ can lead us to a first round bye in the big 12's
 
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Fred is going to make a logical decision based upon what is best for his career and family's well-being. None of us know the answer except him. I find it hard to judge a person's career moves because no one knows that person's life 100% except for him.

That being said, Fred knows that once he leaves Iowa State, the likelihood of him returning is pretty slim. He also knows how special of a situation he has here. The right decision will be made by Fred.

And I'm sure this makes it a tougher decision for Fred than for Donovan or Stevens. I'm sure they both had an emotional connection with Florida and Butler, but it's not the lifelong connection that Fred has with Ames or ISU. If they want to come back to the college game, they would both have quality programs lined up at the door the minute they were available. Fred would too, but it's doubtful ISU would be one of the jobs available to him.
 
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why do other coaches like coach K stay at a school?

Coach K was really close to leaving a couple times too, for the Heat job in the mid 90's and then the Lakers job in the early 2000's. I think getting to coach the Olympic team really helped satisfy his desire to coach next level talent. I have mentioned before that I was really hoping Fred could get involved with the USA teams for this reason as well.
 
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why do other coaches like coach K stay at a school?

Coach K / Bobby Knights of the world, saw themselves more as educators than coaches. I think they liked the opportunity to take kids and mold them into quality men. Up until the last couple of years, Coach K had kids for 3-4 years, not just OAD's.
 
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Who knows what'll happen, but Fred leaving would be the most Iowa State thing ever. Protect your junk at all times.
 
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Here's a good question: everyone and their mother thinks the NBA wants to pick up Fred. Has anyone actually come out firing and saying that Hoiberg is their top choice and that they're going to make a push to get him? Everything thus far just feels like rumors and it gets more annoying by the day. Unless the answer to this question has been put on record, it's pretty useless speculation that does nothing but impact ISU and recruiting in a negative way.

Also, with Fred's heart condition getting worse, are teams still pursuing him (if they even are) as hard as before? The big question is has the Bulls organization actually said they want Fred for next season, or is it just a bunch of people saying this because he used to play for them and the move logically makes sense?
 
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come on Chris and Blum....have you not read the posts by the CF members here who have guaranteed Fred won't leave??!! How dare you raise these logical points, many which have been stated often, on this board where the members whose only joy in life is ISU basketball are liable to burn Ames to the ground if Fred actually jumps at some point...

Weren't you a CFer who panicked due to the logic of:

Pollard not knowing anything about Fred, panicked, and hired TJ
TJ returns to Ames with a wink wink promise of replacing Fred when he leaves and not interviewing any other candidate
Lorenzo Romar (who apparently knows more than Pollard) made a vague comment about understanding why TJ returned to Ames as proof
Fred is leaving for a position not currently open, hasn't interviewed for, is the only candidate for, regardless of the Bulls' outcome, and welcomed with open arms by the Chicago media, fans, and players?
"See, it's all coming together!"

Sorry, most of us sane CFs know Fred will leave for the NBA someday, believe it should happen later than sooner, however understand it could happen sooner, however don't base it on conspiracy theories you and jsb were presenting.
 
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Weren't you a CFer who panicked due to the logic of:

Pollard not knowing anything about Fred, panicked, and hired TJ
TJ returns to Ames with a wink wink promise of replacing Fred when he leaves and not interviewing any other candidate
Lorenzo Romar (who apparently knows more than Pollard) made a vague comment about understanding why TJ returned to Ames as proof
Fred is leaving for a position not currently open, hasn't interviewed for, is the only candidate for, regardless of the Bulls' outcome, and welcomed with open arms by the Chicago media, fans, and players?
"See, it's all coming together!"

Sorry, most of us sane CFs know Fred will leave for the NBA someday, believe it should happen later than sooner, however understand it could happen sooner, however don't base it on conspiracy theories you and jsb were presenting.

You forgot one more theory:

TJ is on the Cyclone Tailgate Tour with the rest of the coaches this week. He's on the tour so the fans can meet the new coach
 
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Here's a good question: everyone and their mother thinks the NBA wants to pick up Fred. Has anyone actually come out firing and saying that Hoiberg is their top choice and that they're going to make a push to get him? Everything thus far just feels like rumors and it gets more annoying by the day. Unless the answer to this question has been put on record, it's pretty useless speculation that does nothing but impact ISU and recruiting in a negative way.

Also, with Fred's heart condition getting worse, are teams still pursuing him (if they even are) as hard as before? The big question is has the Bulls organization actually said they want Fred for next season, or is it just a bunch of people saying this because he used to play for them and the move logically makes sense?

His heart condition isn't getting worse.
 
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