offensive line help

[RustShack]

Thing is, he's getting his agenda from Campbell. He doesn't perform in a vacuum. That's what's really concerning. Why has it gotten this far?

The structure is changing. Meyers played under Manning, and tutored under Manning, then coached under Manning. They are both gone. Nate is getting more say in the offense, like Heacock does in the defense.

 

[RustShack]

I think it's more the OL coach than the strength coach. Because when I look at our D line, i don't see many strength or conditioning issues.

I think it’s both. Strength and conditioning isn’t one plan fits all. The defense also rotates a lot more.

 

[Gunnerclone]

The structure is changing. Meyers played under Manning, and tutored under Manning, then coached under Manning. They are both gone. Nate is getting more say in the offense, like Heacock does in the defense.

And new coaches have new styles, even if they are teaching a lot of the same things.

 

[tomar1]

A lot more nastiness.

They almost need to be pissed off and take it out on the person in front of them!

 

[tomar1]

After listening to Bruns pod and his scheme frustrations, I'm not sure it's talent. We definitely got some hogs that other good teams wanted. Outside of the list below, took 2 JUCO's last year and have a bunch of lightly recruited Iowa boys as well.

Maro: 36 offers, 17 P5 - TCU, KSU, OSU, Oregon, Utah

Pauls: 8 offers, 8 P5 - KSU, Purdue, Iowa, OSU, MN, Nebby, KU

Deyo: 7 offers, 7 P5 - Oregon, KSU, Iowa, MN, WI, AR

Miller: 8 offers, 7 P5 - Purdue, Cinci, MN, Nebby, UVA

Rengert: 10 offers, 6 P5 - Cinci, Purdue, WVU, UVA, Rutgers

Hasert: 5 offers, 5 P5 - KSU, Iowa, MN, Nebby

We’ve got talent I think just need a coach to make them A cohesive unit!

 

[cyclone82]

Should hire Doyle.

HELL fu*kin NO

 

[BigLame]

Think there is too much competition for those worthy of adding in the portal. Unless we had a previous recruiting connection, I'm not thinking any come to mind so far. One would think we could have a better chance of a JuCo OL recruit or 2 rather than one from the portal.

 

[Clonedogg]

Think there is too much competition for those worthy of adding in the portal. Unless we had a previous recruiting connection, I'm not thinking any come to mind so far. One would think we could have a better chance of a JuCo OL recruit or 2 rather than one from the portal.

Or some lower level, under the radar, diamond.

 

[Frak]

Think there is too much competition for those worthy of adding in the portal. Unless we had a previous recruiting connection, I'm not thinking any come to mind so far. One would think we could have a better chance of a JuCo OL recruit or 2 rather than one from the portal.

We got 2 juco OLs last year and neither of them played on a bad OL.

 

[nrg4isu]

After listening to Bruns pod and his scheme frustrations, I'm not sure it's talent. We definitely got some hogs that other good teams wanted. Outside of the list below, took 2 JUCO's last year and have a bunch of lightly recruited Iowa boys as well.

Maro: 36 offers, 17 P5 - TCU, KSU, OSU, Oregon, Utah

Pauls: 8 offers, 8 P5 - KSU, Purdue, Iowa, OSU, MN, Nebby, KU

Deyo: 7 offers, 7 P5 - Oregon, KSU, Iowa, MN, WI, AR

Miller: 8 offers, 7 P5 - Purdue, Cinci, MN, Nebby, UVA

Rengert: 10 offers, 6 P5 - Cinci, Purdue, WVU, UVA, Rutgers

Hasert: 5 offers, 5 P5 - KSU, Iowa, MN, Nebby

We got 2 juco OLs last year and neither of them played on a bad OL.

Exactly. James Neal and Oluwafunto Akinshilo are 2 big boys on top of the list above. We should have the guys to compete, we just haven't so far. Coaching has to be at least part of the problem.

 

[cyclone82]

I think the talent is there....or here. At least for 5 starters , ....what has been lacking is the development of these guys into BIG12 OL.
This is why the OL coach hire is so important....sure that CMC knows that.

 

[Frak]

Exactly. James Neal and Oluwafunto Akinshilo are 2 big boys on top of the list above. We should have the guys to compete, we just haven't so far. Coaching has to be at least part of the problem.

Oh I think it’s a big part. Seemed like they were confused who to block a lot. That’s on the staff.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Oh I think it’s a big part. Seemed like they were confused who to block a lot. That’s on the staff.

Yes and no. You can just call a straight block, block the man in front of you but you gotta want it. They didn't really push anyone around but Iowa which is crazy.

 

[Frak]

Yes and no. You can just call a straight block, block the man in front of you but you gotta want it. They didn't really push anyone around but Iowa which is crazy.

I think the first three games, they pushed people around some. But it all changed in that Baylor game. Once Brock got hurt, the offense was pretty much going through the motions the rest of the season.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I think the first three games, they pushed people around some. But it all changed in that Baylor game. Once Brock got hurt, the offense was pretty much going through the motions the rest of the season.

Baylor's line bullied them bad. Then K-State lost their two best DEs and still worked us pretty good. Might have been their spirits getting broken on top of the Brock injury?

 

[Frak]

Baylor's line bullied them bad. Then K-State lost their two best DEs and still worked us pretty good. Might have been their spirits getting broken on top of the Brock injury?

Yeah, you're right now that I remember that Baylor game. But we moved the ball pretty well on them anyway.

 

[cyclone1209]

Exactly. James Neal and Oluwafunto Akinshilo are 2 big boys on top of the list above. We should have the guys to compete, we just haven't so far. Coaching has to be at least part of the problem.

They always say it takes a juco (usually) a full year to be on campus to really compete in year 2. It took until year two for even Atyba Rubin to be ready to be a difference maker.

I'm hoping these two are badasses. Same with Hunter Deyo and Deylin Hasert and a number of others. OL could use some guys who lose their jobs possibly.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

They always say it takes a juco (usually) a full year to be on campus to really compete in year 2. It took until year two for even Atyba Rubin to be ready to be a difference maker.

I'm hoping these two are badasses. Same with Hunter Deyo and Deylin Hasert and a number of others. OL could use some guys who lose their jobs possibly.

Frankly, if jobs aren't being taken, it is a very bad sign.

 

[CyLyte2]

Frankly, no one here knows jack about OL play.

 

[CYCLNST8]

Frankly, no one here knows jack about OL play.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the difference between a good & bad offensive line. "Underwhelming" is the best way to describe ours since the departure of Loney.