Murray State Board
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Since 1985, ISU has had 15 20+ win seasons, or one every other year on average. Of these 31 seasons, only 9 were outright losing seasons - and FOUR of them were from Greg McDermott
Over the last 31 seasons, ISU is averaging about 19 wins per season. BOTTOM FEEDER! These guys are just perpetrating the stereotype of people in Kentucky.
Over the last 31 seasons, ISU is averaging about 19 wins per season. BOTTOM FEEDER! These guys are just perpetrating the stereotype of people in Kentucky.
Are you talking about at the press conference? If so, he was literally wearing an ISU tie..
I would just like to know where Joaquin Phoenix got an ISU tie.
I had to do some research, cause I know nothing about Murray. Turns out, it would be like having a D1 program in a place like Ottumwa. Or Fort Dodge, or Muscatine, or Burlington.
Their bottom feeder comments got me thinking. If you use the 100 years type stats yeah we are slightly below average among these teams who have been in and out of our league...but since the Big 12 was formed we're average to slightly above average and we are #2 to KU in hardware, a distant #2, but still #2.
This is just my personal opinion but I give Regular Season Championship 1 point, shared regular season championship .75 points, Big 12 Tournament Championship .5 points. That's just how I feel about it, if you don't agree fine. Here are all time Big 12 hardware accumulation stats according to that:
Kansas: 18.5
Iowa State: 3.5 (1 point is very recent, #2 in outright regular season titles, #3 in overall regular titles, tied for #2 in tournament titles, #2 in overall Big 12 trophies)
Texas: 2.5 (no points for a decade)
Oklahoma: 2.25 (no points in over a decade)
Oklahoma St: 2 (no points in over a decade)
Kansas St: .75
Missouri: .5
Nebraska: 0
Tech: 0
A&M: 0
Baylor: 0!!!
Colorado: 0
WVU: 0 (think they'd have a point or two if they had been in all along)
TCU: 0
So in terms of actually winning, we are a long long long long way from being below average in our conference, we're clearly #2. It's also interesting that KSU and Missouri could never really take anything from rival KU while ISU has smacked them in the mouth a few times.
This is just my personal opinion but I give Regular Season Championship 1 point, shared regular season championship .75 points, Big 12 Tournament Championship .5 points. That's just how I feel about it, if you don't agree fine. Here are all time Big 12 hardware accumulation stats according to that:
Kansas: 18.5
Iowa State: 3.5 (1 point is very recent, #2 in outright regular season titles, #3 in overall regular titles, tied for #2 in tournament titles, #2 in overall Big 12 trophies)
Texas: 2.5 (no points for a decade)
Oklahoma: 2.25 (no points in over a decade)
Oklahoma St: 2 (no points in over a decade)
Kansas St: .75
Missouri: .5
Nebraska: 0
Tech: 0
A&M: 0
Baylor: 0!!!
Colorado: 0
WVU: 0 (think they'd have a point or two if they had been in all along)
TCU: 0
So in terms of actually winning, we are a long long long long way from being below average in our conference, we're clearly #2. It's also interesting that KSU and Missouri could never really take anything from rival KU while ISU has smacked them in the mouth a few times.
I like the idea - I realize it'd be a bunch more work, but I think it'd be more meaningful to just exclude KU, call them awesome, and then see who was the runner-up in all of those categories over the Big 12's lifespan. Probably give a much more meaningful spread of "second-place-ness"
KSU did all they needed to do to win the conference title outright a few years ago. Unfortunately KU was gifted a game to keep the streak alive.
True, I wanted to bring that up so bad but even some of our own posters basically hate me because I don't give Kansas any credit for winning the Big 12 that year. (you know because their title was as real as a WWF wrestling match)
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