More Rhoads Speculation
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So according to your reasons why Pitt is a better job than ISU, Pitt is also a better job than Iowa.
I view Rhoads as the best coach ISU has had since Earl Bruce....your damn right I don't want to see him stay at ISU.
Like I said though, I don't think he will leave for Pitt....or at least I totally misread his character if he does.
Wishful thinking. Fifteen years ago I wouldn't argue with you. After suffering in the Big East for the past decade, the program is no better off. Ask Boston College how much their program has benefited from the move to the ACC. It's obvious Hawkeye fans desperately want CPR to take the job. You hate the thought of being little brother.
This is truly unreal. Anyone that thinks he is going to Pitt of all places is absolutely insane. Might he use Pitt to get a few extra bucks...of course. Maybe have his agent out there leaking some stuff...of course, that's how it works, it's called leverage. There is zero chance he actually goes there. Pay attention people....my god.
Now that doesn't mean he won't leave eventually. But he isn't going to freaking Pitt.
Now that doesn't mean he won't leave eventually. But he isn't going to freaking Pitt.
You could certainly make an argument that it is an easier job than Iowa, but Iowa has more tradition at winning than Pitt over the course of the last three decades & Iowa has proven it is willing to pay top 10 type money for a big time coach....neither of which Pitt has going for it.
I would say Iowa/Pitt are pretty similar jobs (in terms of attractiveness to coaches).
He will not leave for Pitt. He will get a well deserved new contract that will help keep Hawk fans up at night.
Wrong again, Pitt is a much better job than Iowa. I hear all the time how tough it is to get players to come to Iowa City from hawk fans so with it's location Pitt is 10 times better than Iowa.
No, according to your criteria Pitt is a better job than Iowa. More big time donors, more tradition (a national title like you said), easier recruiting, and Pitt will have an easier time winning conference titles.
All things that Pitt has one up on Iowa.
Pitt is not a step up. No home stadium, avg. 46,000 a game, play in the weakest BCS conference, and moving to the 2nd weakest conference.
Outside of a few big schools in football, tradition is dead in college football and new ones are being made. Has conference realignment not taught anyone that? I am in my 30's and Pitt football has not been relevant in my lifetime to leave a lasting impression as a potential powerhouse. They couldn't become relevant as a player in the Big Least tells me that any tradition they had going for them is dead.
Outside of a few big schools in football, tradition is dead in college football and new ones are being made. Has conference realignment not taught anyone that? I am in my 30's and Pitt football has not been relevant in my lifetime to leave a lasting impression as a potential powerhouse. They couldn't become relevant as a player in the Big Least tells me that any tradition they had going for them is dead.
Why do we fans think we're the greatest football tradition school out there? We have such an inferiority complex that we are incapable of actually seeing we are in an inferior position in relation to MANY MANY schools - including Pitt and YES Iowa... But we keep beating them!
Lot's of subjectivity in this discussion, and you and I both obviously have our biases, the bottom line: both jobs are better than the ISU job.
You won't find anyone outside of Ames that would ever claim any differently.
I don't really want this to be a discussion about Iowa...my two cents are that Rhoads won't take the job due to his loyalty to ISU, though there is no doubt that Pitt is a step up in terms of job prestige/advantages.
I was VERY doubtful that this had any legs yesterday, especially after texting back and forth with a Pitt columnist and him telling me that he didn't think that Pederson would last another year at Pitt... But then, I talked to another friend in the Pitt media who talks to Rhoads from time to time. He said that Rhoads told him he had interest last time around, but didn't think the time was right as he hadn't been at Iowa State long, he wanted to see how the realignment thing worked out, and that his mother was very ill. Since then, he has exceeded expectations again at Iowa State, realignment has made it very difficult for Iowa State to succeed, and his mother has passed away so Rhoads is more receptive to outside offers...
Take it how you will, but I beleive him...
Take it how you will, but I beleive him...
Where did I say anything like you are claiming. Just pointing out the irony in HawkFans post that the claims of why Pitt is a better job than ISU also makes it a better job than Iowa.
And to answer your question I don't believe that Pitt is a better job than ISU currently.
Lots of issues at Pitt, an empty NFL stadium and Stever Pedersen is the AD to name a few.
There is a reason they have had 3 or 4 head coaches in a matter of 18 months.
I'm sorry.
I don't see how playing in front of 20,000 people in an NFL stadium in the ACC is better than playing in front of 70,000 people in the Big 10 or 50,000 in the Big 12. Especially when its your home, and your entire family is here.
Pitt offers no support, and if you want to talk conference stability, there is a higher likelihood of the ACC losing schools than the Big 12 at this point (SEC expansion would likely focus on the coast, Big 10 won't expand w/out ND, Pac-12 presidents/ADs have reigned in Larry Scott).
I don't see how playing in front of 20,000 people in an NFL stadium in the ACC is better than playing in front of 70,000 people in the Big 10 or 50,000 in the Big 12. Especially when its your home, and your entire family is here.
Pitt offers no support, and if you want to talk conference stability, there is a higher likelihood of the ACC losing schools than the Big 12 at this point (SEC expansion would likely focus on the coast, Big 10 won't expand w/out ND, Pac-12 presidents/ADs have reigned in Larry Scott).
Actually there have been quite a few people in the media outside of Ames that have said Rhoads should stay at ISU as currently it is a better situation then what he would walk into at Pitt.
We all get the past history of Pitt, but it is a train wreck right now. Minnesota also has 5 national championships and alot of the advantages that Pitt has but would anyone consider that a high end job.
Ok. So I'm just going to assume that the reason that the contract extension is taking so long is that JP is going out of his way to secure everything and anything CPR could ever ask for in the long term.
I'm hoping it isn't because CPR is pulling a chizik and making sure his buyout (if any) is nill so that he's an even hotter commodity... It doesn't fit his personality, but business is business and money can do wonders for your family. Put in the same shoes, nearly every one of us would give serious thought to a bigger paycheck.
I'm hoping it isn't because CPR is pulling a chizik and making sure his buyout (if any) is nill so that he's an even hotter commodity... It doesn't fit his personality, but business is business and money can do wonders for your family. Put in the same shoes, nearly every one of us would give serious thought to a bigger paycheck.