Agreed.
There have been some really good points in this thread re: Graduate transfer, Chris. Has it made you reconsider your position at all?
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Agreed.
There have been some really good points in this thread re: Graduate transfer, Chris. Has it made you reconsider your position at all?
Same here. And I can't even imagine how badly Georges, Jameel, Monte and the rest of the guys want another crack at UAB.
The margin of victory if we play UAB next year... Yikes. I already feel bad for UAB.
Considering that the challenge is 100% ESPN's creation, I think you can rest assured that Florida and Kentucky will be involved every year.
A loss at Rupp is huge in it's own right. It's really a no-lose situation if we go to UK and play.
I think it's an NBA rule, yes, but I'd be shocked if the NCAA wasn't a part of those talks.
Trying to get the NBA to change their rule. And if nothing else, all those one and dones could still just go Pro like the did before the one and done rule with out playing college ball.
Great points all around. As I wrote, I see both sides. I really do. It's an interesting conversation. Regarding JP's tweets, I get his stance too. I just have a hard time comparing track athletes to high-major basketball players. Rarely similar situations, IMO.
Good chatter though guys.
I must be one of the few who doesn't mind the one and done process. Way more fun than having random high school kids go to the NBA.
I feel like playing UAB next year would be like playing Tulsa in football a couple years ago where they won when it counted most but we won the regular season match-up.
The rematch is a lose-lose for ISU:
ISU loses again: REALLY BAD
ISU wins: "You still lost to them in the tournament!"
Sure, the difference being, the NCAA is never going to seriously pursue a strategy that will cause super marketable star freshman to abandon the college game for other opportunities. Fixing the transfer "problem" is the perfect play for them because it lets them make a big stand on "academic integrity" without sacrificing any of their stars.
Note, I don't necessarily think the NCAA is wrong to tweak their transfer rules, but there is a reason why they are focused on that and not one-and-done.
After what they did to us, this is a feeling I will never have. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Don't know, but don't compare three track athletes to Bryce Dejean-Jones. Very different scenarios, I'm sure.
I'm cool with this as long as they revisit the one-and-done out of high school practice.
After all, if kids are pretending to be students for a semester (on 12.0 credits of underwater basket weaving, or even less than that if they are at UNC) then ditching classes and going to the NBA... isn't that worse than somebody who at least finished their BA before pulling something like this? Isn't it really the exact same situation?
Maybe a team that uses a "one-and-done" transfer has to hold their scholarship for at least two years, or something like that?
After all, shouldn't true freshman put even MORE effort into their precious education than would kids who already have a BA?
After all, if kids are pretending to be students for a semester (on 12.0 credits of underwater basket weaving, or even less than that if they are at UNC) then ditching classes and going to the NBA... isn't that worse than somebody who at least finished their BA before pulling something like this? Isn't it really the exact same situation?
Maybe a team that uses a "one-and-done" transfer has to hold their scholarship for at least two years, or something like that?
After all, shouldn't true freshman put even MORE effort into their precious education than would kids who already have a BA?
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And only a few years ago Jamie had this to say on transfers:
However, it also helps to keep our transfers in perspective. My peers and I continually discuss the epidemic around the country in the sport of basketball. In the past two years over 500 men's basketball players have transferred from a Division I team to another program. That number is absolutely amazing. Unfortunately if a kid's world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society's change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades - everybody passes; can't keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf). Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can't just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.
Apparently he's no longer concerned about this generation surviving in the real world.
You can't use the OAD argument here because that is an NBA rule. As far as the NCAA is concerned (so they'll tell you), all these freshman could go straight to the NBA. But since they can't do that, because the NBA says they must be a year removed from high school, then the kids must play by the NCAA's rules.