MONDAY MUSINGS: Transfer rules, hoops schedule notes
- Thread starter ChrisMWilliams
- Start date
Doesn't the NCAA have a rule where you have a five year window to use your four years of eligibility? If they eliminate the immediately eligible grad-transfer rule wouldn't the following scenario be impossible?
Freshman (Redshirt)
Redshirt Freshman
Redshirt Sophomore
Redshirt Junior
Grad-Transfer Ineligible Year
Redshirt Senior
Freshman (Redshirt)
Redshirt Freshman
Redshirt Sophomore
Redshirt Junior
Grad-Transfer Ineligible Year
Redshirt Senior
Chris Williams said:
I guess I don't see the downside to the "hired gun" argument. As you stated, they've done their work and got their degrees, what's the harm in letting them get one year somewhere else? If anything, I'd be in favor of removing the ridiculous "degree not offered" rule and just let them transfer if they want to, as long as they qualify and are enrolled in a graduate program.
The NCAA has no room to talk about "hired guns". That organization is about the money. I'm not a pay for play guy, but the more they try to control players, the more likely that they lose control of it.
Ughhh, I was hoping to see a power 5 level opponent coming to Ames besides Iowa.. Doesn't look to be happening.
Curious as to what "tournament caliber mid-major" could mean. Are we talking Mountain West, A-10 level mid-major, or another Georgia State type team that is likely to win a weak league's one bid?
With Iowa State being at it's highest, and Kentucky still being very high for it's position, I wouldn't be surprised to see ISU goes the Rupp this year. Just can't see Kansas playing Kentucky again, and Oklahoma just doesn't have the fan support to warrent it.
I would put LSU and Texas A&M above Florida right now. Here's how I see it going down:
Iowa State - Kentucky
Kansas - LSU
Oklahoma - Florida
Baylor (or "Gods be good" TEJAS) - Texas A&M, the other team against Arkansas.
After that who cares.
I would put LSU and Texas A&M above Florida right now. Here's how I see it going down:
Iowa State - Kentucky
Kansas - LSU
Oklahoma - Florida
Baylor (or "Gods be good" TEJAS) - Texas A&M, the other team against Arkansas.
After that who cares.
I'd like to see if there's a statistic on those who are enrolled in grad school for their 5th year who didn't transfer. I would think those who are just sticking around to exhaust their athletic eligibility don't finish their degrees either.
I'd rather play Illinois than UAB again... unless someone can guarantee we wipe the floor with them by 40+ to avenge the tourney game.
Excellent point- I'll bet that they are no more likely to advance their education further by staying vs transferring (which pretty much blows up the legitimacy of this concern).
How does the SEC determine which of their teams will play in the challenge in a given year? Since they are a bigger league, several will be sitting it out. Just curious if we even know for sure if Florida and Kentucky will be playing next year, let alone whether they are playing us.
Jamie Pollard @IASTATEAD 13m13 minutes agoIowa, USA
Part 1 of 2: NCAA wants SA who has graduated to sit out a year before graduate school to PROVE they are committed to academics, but .....
Jamie Pollard @IASTATEAD 11m11 minutes agoIowa, USA
Part 2 of 2: NCAA is perfectly fine with "One and Done" a SA playing basketball for 1 year then declaring for draft. #ironic
Jamie Pollard @IASTATEAD 9m9 minutes agoIowa, USA
ISU has 3 Ivy League graduate transfers on track team. I guess they are not as committed to academics as One and Done BB players. #ironic
Part 1 of 2: NCAA wants SA who has graduated to sit out a year before graduate school to PROVE they are committed to academics, but .....
Jamie Pollard @IASTATEAD 11m11 minutes agoIowa, USA
Part 2 of 2: NCAA is perfectly fine with "One and Done" a SA playing basketball for 1 year then declaring for draft. #ironic
Jamie Pollard @IASTATEAD 9m9 minutes agoIowa, USA
ISU has 3 Ivy League graduate transfers on track team. I guess they are not as committed to academics as One and Done BB players. #ironic
Yeah, I've been looking at these articles to see if the proposal includes a sixth year to cover the year the graduate has to sit out, but I haven't found it. It would be just as dumb to make kids take graduate classes at a school for a year to finish their eligibility when their choice of graduate program isn't even offered at their current school.
Speaking to the validity of 2 years in grad school being "mandatory". My grad program was traditionally completed in about 1 year (sometimes using a summer internship to finish) but my Graduate Assistantship required me to commit 2 years to working. Therefore, in my second year, I was only taking 1 class at a time, in addition to work experience.
Would think this would be similar to the grad transfer players. Would expect them to enroll in a program that does not actually require 2 full years to complete - mine was Sport Management. If the NCAA forces them to complete 2 years in grad school, couldn't they end up in a similar situation as I was? This really adds value to education!
Would think this would be similar to the grad transfer players. Would expect them to enroll in a program that does not actually require 2 full years to complete - mine was Sport Management. If the NCAA forces them to complete 2 years in grad school, couldn't they end up in a similar situation as I was? This really adds value to education!
As far as the SEC challenge goes, I'm leaning towards Kentucky right now but I wouldn't mind playing at LSU. That LSU recruiting class is so good. Then again, looking back on it at the end of the year (or even in 10 years), a win at Rupp is huge while a win at whatever LSU's stadium is called is much less prestigious.
At the end of the day, LSU is LSU and Kentucky is Kentucky. I'd rather play Kentucky.
At the end of the day, LSU is LSU and Kentucky is Kentucky. I'd rather play Kentucky.
I don't know about you guys but part of my really wants ISU to get a piece of UAB.
I think I'd be ok with the NCAA having grad transfers sit out a year to keep everything consistent for transfers of all kinds, but they'd have to do something like grant a second redshirt year and a 6th year to the eligibility window of guys that do complete their degree after only playing three years.