Or:
-freshman girl meets bball players
-agrees to go back to their room to talk
-they rape her
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Michigan State MBB Mess...
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Or:
-freshman girl meets bball players
-agrees to go back to their room to talk
-they rape her
Uh, except that one of the two players corroborates the victim's version?
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That is one way to read into the story...but that is not the story I read! Not saying the accused players are guilty...but this story is way more than a "she-said" story!
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"MSU detectives interviewed the suite mate on Sept. 2. He said he heard a woman 'moaning' and said it sounded like she was having sex 'and was not in any trouble.' "
Well, that's it then! If one of the players' roommates said that she was "not in any trouble," it must be true!
Well, that's it then! If one of the players' roommates said that she was "not in any trouble," it must be true!
I will lose serious respect for Izzo if these players aren't dismissed, or at least the one actually committed the rape. The other will be kicked off through association though, even though he stopped when she said to, he did not stop the other from continuing the assault. I have serious, serious problems with rape. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who commits it.
I hold Izzo to higher standards than the Alford's and Ferentz's of the world, and if he let these guys play, he is no better than Steve Alford.
I hold Izzo to higher standards than the Alford's and Ferentz's of the world, and if he let these guys play, he is no better than Steve Alford.
But you didn't say "maybe we should consider it". You said the story is that "she ****** some basketball players and then yelled raped to not look like a ****". You didn't say maybe or anything, you said that's the story.
That's blaming the victim and it's a stupid, small, petty thing to do.
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Not to mention the fact that if the report is accurate, one of the men involved pretty much confirmed the victim's version of the story.
Dude, I have a hard time believing someone would go out of their way to ruin two people's lives just because she regretted a threesome with 2 athletes. Remember this is very personal and embarrassing to the victim to have to go through all of this. These aren't pro athletes so it's not like she is putting on a show for some money.
And apparently you missed the entire section of the story where one of the player's pretty much confirmed her story...
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Yea, but nobody on the team in the Duke case was making statements that could be interpreted as, "I kind of started to rape her, but then I felt bad. My teammate did not feel so bad and continued". At least not that I can recall.
It just seems a bit fishy is all.
The part that gets me is at the beginning where it says she had several drinks with friends, so that could be taken as she was intoxicated. And my understanding of law is that if a woman is intoxicated she doesn't have the capacity to consent and it is still considered rape.
I am not a lawyer...but I believe you are correct in your interpretation of the law in this situation.
CycloneErik
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Amen. This is really an intolerable concept by that poster. No reason to drop in and connect someone to this sort of case that can't possibly be connected. Despicable.
And that would be a fair word to describe the guys involved in this deal. I think it's fair to go ahead and say it, since the victim and one perp agree on the story.
CycloneErik
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I read the article, and the victim and one player both agree that she was unwilling and attempted to make that clear.
So you're last line is unnecessary character assassination from someone who doesn't deserve it. She made a bad call going to the room, but bad calls don't justify this.
This could end up worse than Duke lacrosse big, because nobody paid attention to Duke lacrosse before that story. MSU basketball is sort of prominent nationally.
I agree, I don't think she's lying in this case. I was just pointing out that, in general, its not hard to believe someone would just make up something like that.
No it appears you failed to read the story and the part where one of the players verified he side of the story. Your attempt to slander the victim is disgusting. absolutely disgusting. You should be banned
CycloneErik
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Probably. I don't think this is a subject where I feel like trolling, though.
And I'm glad that nobody has shown up to say that MSU deserves it for winning that Elite Eight game.