McKay Starting Over BDJ
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Monte and Kane at 40% and the other three in mid 30s. They were all outside threats
OU has five guys who all play about 30 minutes a game. Two are 6'4'' shooters/scorers (Hield, Cousins), two are banging forwards, 6'8'' 230+ (Thomas, Spangler), and the fifth is a 6'0'' point guard (Woodard).
The problem with starting McKay and having McKay, Niang, and Hogue all on the floor at the same time is that Hogue will have to guard Cousins. I think we match up better with our "usual" five on the floor, and then Morris, Long, and BDJ can guard the three guards, and Niang and Hogue the forwards.
The alternative that might make sense is to start McKay over Hogue instead.
Our FF run was over when Georges went down no matter what number of rotation we used in the regular season.
I hope this motivates BDJ to take his game to another level. He has been good so far, in many instances too unselfish, but if he can increase the his role in creating (on both ends) we will be a tough out. When it is not happening for Georges, BDJ has the ability to carry us.
I Liked McKay Starting
IMO starting McKay gives us stonger post defense with McKay, Niang and Hogue. It reduces the need to double down when the ball goes into the post, which has freed up opponent 3 point shooters. I also think it helps our defensive rebounding with Hogue playing the wing.
The other thing I like is the flexibility it gives Fred from a substitution standpoint. Bryce can sub in for Naz or Dustin. With Matt struggling with his stroke, we have been missing that consistent bench wing player. Nader can rotate in for Hogue or Niang. Or Fred can go with Niang, Hogue and Nader. It didn't happen today, but I think McKay starting opens more minutes for Edozie. Daniel gives ISU a physical defender and rebounder that will help match up against teams like OU, KU and UT. The other benefit is I think it allows Fred to get Monte's mpg down.
IMO starting McKay gives us stonger post defense with McKay, Niang and Hogue. It reduces the need to double down when the ball goes into the post, which has freed up opponent 3 point shooters. I also think it helps our defensive rebounding with Hogue playing the wing.
The other thing I like is the flexibility it gives Fred from a substitution standpoint. Bryce can sub in for Naz or Dustin. With Matt struggling with his stroke, we have been missing that consistent bench wing player. Nader can rotate in for Hogue or Niang. Or Fred can go with Niang, Hogue and Nader. It didn't happen today, but I think McKay starting opens more minutes for Edozie. Daniel gives ISU a physical defender and rebounder that will help match up against teams like OU, KU and UT. The other benefit is I think it allows Fred to get Monte's mpg down.
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Think like Fred, Cousins would have to guard Hogue/Niang, which is a big mismatch down.
Oh my god. He was late. Who the hell cares? Fred doesn't care.
Bryce has had several very good games lately. I don't care if he starts or if McKay starts.
CycloneErik
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IMO it doesn't matter who starts. Whoever Fred picks I'm fine with. This team has that kind of talent to where I can say that.
demoncore1031
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We generally start games shooting pretty poorly from outside, especially on the road. I would love to see McKay start against OU on Monday night and see if we can't get the inside game going before we start shooting the 3 ball.
I kind of hope the starting 5 isn't revealed until around game time at OU so OU can't scout accordingly...if that' even legal.
I also like McKay starting; I think it's a defensive strength though.
35 MPG / Morris
30 MPG / Niang, Hogue, Long, BDJ, McKay
10 MPG / Nader
5 MPG / Thomas
Starting doesn't matter *too* much. We're a core of six with two getting spot minutes/rotation.
30 MPG / Niang, Hogue, Long, BDJ, McKay
10 MPG / Nader
5 MPG / Thomas
Starting doesn't matter *too* much. We're a core of six with two getting spot minutes/rotation.
Everyone plays the same amount of minutes regardless of who starts. OU doesn't care who Fred starts.
Right, and the earth is flat, despite facts to the contrary. Let's see, I wonder what Fred thinks of BDJ's contribution to the team? Oh yeah, he loves BDJ's effort, as does the team.
Sorry, you're outnumbered by anyone who has a clue....
I'm still interested in seeing a Morris/BDJ/Hogue/Niang/McKay lineup. Now, the last reason for this would be to send Naz to the bench (he'd just be the odd man out starting lineup-wise; his minutes shouldn't go down at all).
My reasons:
1: The biggest negative from starting McKay over BDJ is how will BDJ's play be affected? There's less risk of this with Naz.
2. This should be a very good defensive lineup. With this team, and especially on the road, I'd sacrifice a little offensive early on for improved defense.
3. An almost guaranteed matchup advantage with BDJ on offense. Post him up a couple times early, get him involved in the flow of the offense and get a few points for him. Might decrease his few bad shots he often takes later on in games.
4. If the offense isn't flowing bring in Naz pretty early and change things up. Maybe teams don't identify him well off the bench. Especially tournament time.
My reasons:
1: The biggest negative from starting McKay over BDJ is how will BDJ's play be affected? There's less risk of this with Naz.
2. This should be a very good defensive lineup. With this team, and especially on the road, I'd sacrifice a little offensive early on for improved defense.
3. An almost guaranteed matchup advantage with BDJ on offense. Post him up a couple times early, get him involved in the flow of the offense and get a few points for him. Might decrease his few bad shots he often takes later on in games.
4. If the offense isn't flowing bring in Naz pretty early and change things up. Maybe teams don't identify him well off the bench. Especially tournament time.