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I think you picked a good movie to take her too. There are a lot of mentions to the Avenger's and events that have taken place in previous MCU films that she could get lost in some of the backstory, at least in the very beginning. Once you get past the intro and into the actual story of Peter Parker and his high school classmates I think it will start to click with her.

Let me add that my wife and I saw it and she enjoyed it, but she thought Wonder Woman was better.

Well, I'm definitely going to do some prepping for sure. In fact, even though she has seen Iron Man and Ant-Man, she couldn't even remember who they were last night when I showed her Civil War (smh). Then, she also had no idea who or what the Avengers are (smh again). With that said, I figure if I lay out who the Avengers are, how they fought off both a big alien invasion once as a team as well as an artificial intelligence takeover, which later followed with them having a Civil War battle among themselves, which has resulted in them currently splitting apart. Then, combined all of that with what she saw of Spider-Man and I'm hoping I'm good. Am I on the right track?
 
Well, I'm definitely going to do some prepping for sure. In fact, even though she has seen Iron Man and Ant-Man, she couldn't even remember who they were last night when I showed her Civil War (smh). Then, she also had no idea who or what the Avengers are (smh again). With that said, I figure if I lay out who the Avengers are, how they fought off both a big alien invasion once as a team as well as an artificial intelligence takeover, which later followed with them having a Civil War battle among themselves, which has resulted in them currently splitting apart. Then, combined all of that with what she saw of Spider-Man and I'm hoping I'm good. Am I on the right track?

As long as she understands who the Avengers are and that a battle took place involving alien technology, she should be ok. The story is tied into the MCU, but it's pretty easy to follow as a stand-alone film.
 
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Well, I'm definitely going to do some prepping for sure. In fact, even though she has seen Iron Man and Ant-Man, she couldn't even remember who they were last night when I showed her Civil War (smh). Then, she also had no idea who or what the Avengers are (smh again). With that said, I figure if I lay out who the Avengers are, how they fought off both a big alien invasion once as a team as well as an artificial intelligence takeover, which later followed with them having a Civil War battle among themselves, which has resulted in them currently splitting apart. Then, combined all of that with what she saw of Spider-Man and I'm hoping I'm good. Am I on the right track?

Yeah, that's pretty close. It's probably too late now, but I would recommend watching Iron-Man, The Avenger's, and Captain America: Civil War before going in to Spider-Man: Homecoming. The film does a pretty good job of setting up the villain and does a very brief recap of Spidey's role in Civil War. This is all in about the first 5-10 minutes of the movie, and once you get past that the movie is far-less dependent on past MCU events.
 
I know I'm behind the curve here, but I'm finally getting a chance to see Spider-Man Homecoming tonight. I'm super hyped. In fact, if I had to list my favorite super-heroes for most of my earlier childhood, it was definitely a tie between Spider-Man and Batman for the #1 spot, whereas more recently, Captain America has joined that club. Been waiting for when my wife can join me, so I'm really hoping she actually likes it. To prepare her a bit, I showed her the scenes Spider-Man appeared in for Civil War last night. Afterwards, I'll be sure to post my full review and rankings.
That is interesting. I try to think back on my favorite superhero characters when I was real little and I believe mine were Gambit, silver surfer and batman.
 
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So, I finally saw Spider-Man: Homecoming last night and I've got to admit that while I really enjoyed the film, I actually walked away a little underwhelmed. I'm sure a lot of that had to due with the fact that I had some pretty unrealistic expectations, but not all due to that. What the film did well was entertain the audience with lots of unique fun and laughs, but in the end, I thought what it direly lacked was the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors. While there is zero question that Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man we've seen by far, deep down, it was truly that emotional weight of movies like Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, and even The Amazing Spider-Man (I'm actually a fan of this film) that made me first fall in love with Spider-Man.

One thing that is interesting is how much I appreciated the extent they went to avoid treading the same ground of the previous films, by avoiding things like how he gained his powers, learning his Spider senses, and the Uncle Ben death. However, what they didn't do well was back-fill that weight in other ways well enough. Its almost like they wanted to simply replace weight with more quips, and they ultimately took it too far. The terrible movie music score did not help in the slightest either. In fact, not having close to the emotional score of its predecessors was maybe one of its biggest downfalls. Scores truly can make or break the emotions of a movie. With that said, I've got other positives and negatives from the film that I'd like to note, so I figured a list would be the most appropriate. Caution: Very Mild Spoiler territory beyond


Positives
-Tom Holland is by far the best Spider-Man actor ever. While I liked some of the movies, I never liked Tobey or Andrew in the role. Tom Holland IS Spider-Man in every sense of the word.
-Loved the true high school kid format featuring the true diversity of Queens
-Really liked the John-Hughes vibe of the whole film which made it creative and unique
-The Vulture was one of the best villains in the MCU yet, probably right up there with Loki. Great performance by Keaton.
-The movie was hilarious with a lot of credit going to the supporting cast like Ned
-The movie tried hard not to retread aspects of previous Spidey films (if anything, they tried too hard though)
-Loved how interwoven the movie was into the entire MCU with a bazillion Easter eggs
-Had probably the best twist yet of any MCU movie. The twist made my jaw drop and was one of my favorite things about the movie.
-That dinner and car scene with Michael Keaton was terrifying and one of my all-time favorite scenes of any MCU movie. My wife was screaming during it.
-Just really loved the overall characterization of most everyone in the film
-Sets up the future of the MCU as well as Spider-Man's own personal world well
-Loved how they used smaller stakes in this movie, but made them feel big and personal. Not every movie has to be potential world-ending or city-destroying.

Negatives
-I thought the movie, while hilarious, went too far with the funny quips at the expense of more emotional weight
-Just overall lacked the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors or even its MCU peers
-Hated the characterization of Happy Hogan. The dude was a **** throughout with no redemption.
-Tony Stark was also a bit too much of a jerk throughout, even though he wasn't as bad as Hogan
-Really didn't love the overboard Ironmanization of Spidey's suit. Too many gadgets. I want Spidey to be more Spidey and less Iron Man.
-I thought the overall action was decent, but not great. Had Spidey do a few too many unrealistic too CGIish moves at times too.
-Actually wish the movie would have retread some things a bit more than it did to fill in some more backstory for us
-There was no iconic emotional moment like the Aunt May "Hero in all of us" speech of Spider-Man 2, no Spidey jumping the buildings while injured in The Amazing Spider-Man, no "with great power comes great responsibility" moment.... etc. Just never had that one big moment (my next point didn't help).
-While the music score was good fun at times, like pretty much every MCU movie to date, I thought the overall score just sucked. There was no new iconic Spidey songs like its predecessors that could hit hard with the emotion of the movie. In fact, I can't think back and remember one single song of the movie.

In the end, if I could sum all of this up in a few words, I'd almost have to say that my biggest disappointment in this movie was that it had too much fun with too little heart. Therefore, while it is up there with my favorite Spidey movies of all time, it is not my favorite, Spider-Man 2 is. That isn't to say that this movie isn't better in many ways than Spider-Man 2, because it is. It just didn't hook me emotionally the way that movie did to the point where Spider-Man became one of my all-time favorite heroes of my childhood. As for a MCU comparison, I think this movie also just has too many flaws to put it up there in the top tier. Like its fellow movie this year GOTG vol. 2, I'd call it much more of an upper second tier MCU movie. In fact, I thought this movie had many of the same flaws of GOTG vol. 2, but did at least have a better villain. For another summer comparison, I liked Wonder Woman better. While Homecoming had a better villain than Wonder Woman, I thought Wonder Woman balanced the comedy and drama better.

FYI... I'll soon repost my full MCU rankings to include this movie.
 
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So, I finally saw Spider-Man: Homecoming last night and I've got to admit that while I really enjoyed the film, I actually walked away a little underwhelmed. I'm sure a lot of that had to due with the fact that I had some pretty unrealistic expectations, but not all due to that. What the film did well was entertain the audience with lots of unique fun and laughs, but in the end, I thought what it direly lacked was the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors. While there is zero question that Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man we've seen by far, deep down, it was truly that emotional weight of movies like Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, and even The Amazing Spider-Man (I'm actually a fan of this film) that made me first fall in love with Spider-Man.

One thing that is interesting is how much I appreciated the extent they went to avoid treading the same ground of the previous films, by avoiding things like how he gained his powers, learning his Spider senses, and the Uncle Ben death. However, what they didn't do well was back-fill that weight in other ways well enough. Its almost like they wanted to simply replace weight with more quips, and they ultimately took it too far. The terrible movie music score did not help in the slightest either. In fact, not having close to the emotional score of its predecessors was maybe one of its biggest downfalls. Scores truly can make or break the emotions of a movie. With that said, I've got other positives and negatives from the film that I'd like to note, so I figured a list would be the most appropriate. Caution: Very Mild Spoiler territory beyond


Positives
-Tom Holland is by far the best Spider-Man actor ever. While I liked some of the movies, I never liked Tobey or Andrew in the role. Tom Holland IS Spider-Man in every sense of the word.
-Loved the true high school kid format featuring the true diversity of Queens
-Really liked the John-Hughes vibe of the whole film which made it creative and unique
-The Vulture was one of the best villains in the MCU yet, probably right up there with Loki. Great performance by Keaton.
-The movie was hilarious with a lot of credit going to the supporting cast like Ned
-The movie tried hard not to retread aspects of previous Spidey films (if anything, they tried too hard though)
-Loved how interwoven the movie was into the entire MCU with a bazillion Easter eggs
-Had probably the best twist yet of any MCU movie. The twist made my jaw drop and was one of my favorite things about the movie.
-That dinner and car scene with Michael Keaton was terrifying and one of my all-time favorite scenes of any MCU movie. My wife was screaming during it.
-Just really loved the overall characterization of most everyone in the film
-Sets up the future of the MCU as well as Spider-Man's own personal world well

Negatives
-I thought the movie, while hilarious, went too far with the funny quips at the expense of more emotional weight
-Just overall lacked the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors or even its MCU peers
-Hated the characterization of Happy Hogan. The dude was a **** throughout with no redemption.
-Tony Stark was also a bit too much of a jerk throughout, even though he wasn't as bad as Hogan
-Really didn't love the overboard Ironmanization of Spidey's suit. Too many gadgets. I want Spidey to be more Spidey and less Iron Man.
-I thought the overall action was decent, but not great. Had Spidey do a few too many unrealistic too CGIish moves at times too.
-Actually wish the movie would have retread some things a bit more than it did to fill in some more backstory for us
-There was no iconic emotional moment like the Aunt May "Hero in all of us" speech of Spider-Man 2, no Spidey jumping the buildings while injured in The Amazing Spider-Man, no "with great power comes great responsibility" moment.... etc. Just never had that one big moment (my next point didn't help).
-While the music score was good fun at times, like pretty much every MCU movie to date, I thought the overall score just sucked. There was no new iconic Spidey songs like its predecessors that could hit hard with the emotion of the movie. In fact, I can't think back and remember one single song of the movie.

In the end, if I could sum all of this up in a few words, I'd almost have to say that my biggest disappointment in this movie was that it had too much fun with too little heart. Therefore, while it is up there with my favorite Spidey movies of all time, it is not my favorite, Spider-Man 2 is. That isn't to say that this movie isn't better in many ways than Spider-Man 2, because it is. It just didn't hook me emotionally the way that movie did to the point where Spider-Man became one of my all-time favorite heroes of my childhood. As for a MCU comparison, I think this movie also just has too many flaws to put it up there in the top tier. Like its fellow movie this year GOTG vol. 2, I'd call it much more of an upper second tier MCU movie. In fact, I thought this movie had many of the same flaws of GOTG vol. 2, but did at least have a better villain. For another summer comparison, I liked Wonder Woman better. While Homecoming had a better villain than Wonder Woman, I thought Wonder Woman balanced the comedy and drama better.

FYI... I'll soon repost my full MCU rankings to include this movie.

I definitely liked it more than you, but I was also hoping for a less emotionally driven film. Some of your negatives (no emotional weight or iconic emotional moment) were things I'd list as positives. I actually think the moment when he was trapped and had to prove he was "Spiderman without the suit" was supposed to be that emotional revelation, but it fell a little flat.

I was really really glad we didn't have to waste any time with the backstory of him getting his powers or losing Uncle Ben. It would have taken away from the light-hearted feel of the first quarter of the movie (the cell phone video part was great, IMO). I guess that also contributes to me not noticing the score at all (as opposed to Wonder Woman, which I thought was well done).

I agree with you on the suit being a little too gadget filled though. Some of Spiderman's appeal was always his ability to use his intelligence to overcome adversity. Maybe give him the ability to track someone and have the suit auto-tighten and leave it at that. While there were some decent bits of humor with him talking to his suit, it was something that could have been left out.

One dumb thing that bothered me (from a common sense standpoint) is that he loses his back pack, tells Aunt May, and then we find out that he's gone through several this year. Can you not secure it about 15 feet off the ground with some webbing or something?!? I mean, it's New York and it's happened to you several times already. C'mon man!
 
I definitely liked it more than you, but I was also hoping for a less emotionally driven film. Some of your negatives (no emotional weight or iconic emotional moment) were things I'd list as positives. I actually think the moment when he was trapped and had to prove he was "Spiderman without the suit" was supposed to be that emotional revelation, but it fell a little flat.

I was really really glad we didn't have to waste any time with the backstory of him getting his powers or losing Uncle Ben. It would have taken away from the light-hearted feel of the first quarter of the movie (the cell phone video part was great, IMO). I guess that also contributes to me not noticing the score at all (as opposed to Wonder Woman, which I thought was well done).

I agree with you on the suit being a little too gadget filled though. Some of Spiderman's appeal was always his ability to use his intelligence to overcome adversity. Maybe give him the ability to track someone and have the suit auto-tighten and leave it at that. While there were some decent bits of humor with him talking to his suit, it was something that could have been left out.

One dumb thing that bothered me (from a common sense standpoint) is that he loses his back pack, tells Aunt May, and then we find out that he's gone through several this year. Can you not secure it about 15 feet off the ground with some webbing or something?!? I mean, it's New York and it's happened to you several times already. C'mon man!

I definitely respect all those people out there really loving this movie. Shoot, I really enjoyed it overall. One of them to each their own. Shoot, I may just have unrealistic expectations. I do agree that I think they meant for that buried under the concrete to be that emotional moment, as well as his talks with Tony to be those mentoring hitting moments, its just that none of those hit me quite the way I would have liked. I thought they underutilized Aunt May as well. Lastly, with the backpack thing, shoot, I didn't mind that at all. Just reminded me that he was a kid who does stupid kids stuff. Shoot, I forgot my backpack personally all the time too. Brought back those memories. This movie did a lot of that good stuff.
 
Lots of Marvel (and Star Wars) stuff is being shown off at the D23 Expo. They have a "life-size" display of Thanos and how he will look in Infinity War:

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http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-is-your-first-look-at-avengers-infinity-wars-than-1796925180
 
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Marvel just showed the first footage from Infinity War a little bit ago. I don't know if they are going to post it today or wait until after SDCC. Here is a quote from someone that witnessed the awesomeness
A fight begins. Doctor Strange is putting down platforms and Star-Lord is jumping off them, shooting his guns. Cut to Spider-Man, in his new suit revealed at the end of Homecoming, jumping through the air. A shot of Vision behind bars. A shot of a Wakandan army which includes Bucky. Captain America comes out of shadows with a full beard. Black Widow is shown with blonde hair. Iron Man has new, very sleek armor. Someone is using the Hulkbuster armor. Just a huge montage of shots.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-first-footage-from-avengers-infinity-war-blows-awa-1796948476
 
So, I finally saw Spider-Man: Homecoming last night and I've got to admit that while I really enjoyed the film, I actually walked away a little underwhelmed. I'm sure a lot of that had to due with the fact that I had some pretty unrealistic expectations, but not all due to that. What the film did well was entertain the audience with lots of unique fun and laughs, but in the end, I thought what it direly lacked was the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors. While there is zero question that Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man we've seen by far, deep down, it was truly that emotional weight of movies like Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, and even The Amazing Spider-Man (I'm actually a fan of this film) that made me first fall in love with Spider-Man.

One thing that is interesting is how much I appreciated the extent they went to avoid treading the same ground of the previous films, by avoiding things like how he gained his powers, learning his Spider senses, and the Uncle Ben death. However, what they didn't do well was back-fill that weight in other ways well enough. Its almost like they wanted to simply replace weight with more quips, and they ultimately took it too far. The terrible movie music score did not help in the slightest either. In fact, not having close to the emotional score of its predecessors was maybe one of its biggest downfalls. Scores truly can make or break the emotions of a movie. With that said, I've got other positives and negatives from the film that I'd like to note, so I figured a list would be the most appropriate. Caution: Very Mild Spoiler territory beyond





Positives
-Tom Holland is by far the best Spider-Man actor ever. While I liked some of the movies, I never liked Tobey or Andrew in the role. Tom Holland IS Spider-Man in every sense of the word.
-Loved the true high school kid format featuring the true diversity of Queens
-Really liked the John-Hughes vibe of the whole film which made it creative and unique
-The Vulture was one of the best villains in the MCU yet, probably right up there with Loki. Great performance by Keaton.
-The movie was hilarious with a lot of credit going to the supporting cast like Ned
-The movie tried hard not to retread aspects of previous Spidey films (if anything, they tried too hard though)
-Loved how interwoven the movie was into the entire MCU with a bazillion Easter eggs
-Had probably the best twist yet of any MCU movie. The twist made my jaw drop and was one of my favorite things about the movie.
-That dinner and car scene with Michael Keaton was terrifying and one of my all-time favorite scenes of any MCU movie. My wife was screaming during it.
-Just really loved the overall characterization of most everyone in the film
-Sets up the future of the MCU as well as Spider-Man's own personal world well
-Loved how they used smaller stakes in this movie, but made them feel big and personal. Not every movie has to be potential world-ending or city-destroying.

Negatives
-I thought the movie, while hilarious, went too far with the funny quips at the expense of more emotional weight
-Just overall lacked the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors or even its MCU peers
-Hated the characterization of Happy Hogan. The dude was a **** throughout with no redemption.
-Tony Stark was also a bit too much of a jerk throughout, even though he wasn't as bad as Hogan
-Really didn't love the overboard Ironmanization of Spidey's suit. Too many gadgets. I want Spidey to be more Spidey and less Iron Man.
-I thought the overall action was decent, but not great. Had Spidey do a few too many unrealistic too CGIish moves at times too.
-Actually wish the movie would have retread some things a bit more than it did to fill in some more backstory for us
-There was no iconic emotional moment like the Aunt May "Hero in all of us" speech of Spider-Man 2, no Spidey jumping the buildings while injured in The Amazing Spider-Man, no "with great power comes great responsibility" moment.... etc. Just never had that one big moment (my next point didn't help).
-While the music score was good fun at times, like pretty much every MCU movie to date, I thought the overall score just sucked. There was no new iconic Spidey songs like its predecessors that could hit hard with the emotion of the movie. In fact, I can't think back and remember one single song of the movie.

In the end, if I could sum all of this up in a few words, I'd almost have to say that my biggest disappointment in this movie was that it had too much fun with too little heart. Therefore, while it is up there with my favorite Spidey movies of all time, it is not my favorite, Spider-Man 2 is. That isn't to say that this movie isn't better in many ways than Spider-Man 2, because it is. It just didn't hook me emotionally the way that movie did to the point where Spider-Man became one of my all-time favorite heroes of my childhood. As for a MCU comparison, I think this movie also just has too many flaws to put it up there in the top tier. Like its fellow movie this year GOTG vol. 2, I'd call it much more of an upper second tier MCU movie. In fact, I thought this movie had many of the same flaws of GOTG vol. 2, but did at least have a better villain. For another summer comparison, I liked Wonder Woman better. While Homecoming had a better villain than Wonder Woman, I thought Wonder Woman balanced the comedy and drama better.

FYI... I'll soon repost my full MCU rankings to include this movie.


You'll come around with another viewing.
 
Just saw it. Solid film. Holman, Keaton, Ben and the weird girl were all great. The real test is if they can pull off a solid trilogy.
 
Just saw it. Solid film. Holman, Keaton, Ben and the weird girl were all great. The real test is if they can pull off a solid trilogy.

Kevin Feige has said Spider-Man will only be part of 5 MCU movies and they've already made 2:

Civil War
Homecoming
Infinity War
The untitled Avengers Movie
Sequel to Homecoming

If they have a Spider-Man trilogy as part of the MCU they will need to rework the deal with Sony. It's possible that the final film in the new trilogy will only be backed by Sony and will not be part of the MCU. This would be part of Sony's cinematic universe where Tom Hardy will be playing Venom.
 
So, I finally saw Spider-Man: Homecoming last night and I've got to admit that while I really enjoyed the film, I actually walked away a little underwhelmed. I'm sure a lot of that had to due with the fact that I had some pretty unrealistic expectations, but not all due to that. What the film did well was entertain the audience with lots of unique fun and laughs, but in the end, I thought what it direly lacked was the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors. While there is zero question that Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man we've seen by far, deep down, it was truly that emotional weight of movies like Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, and even The Amazing Spider-Man (I'm actually a fan of this film) that made me first fall in love with Spider-Man.

One thing that is interesting is how much I appreciated the extent they went to avoid treading the same ground of the previous films, by avoiding things like how he gained his powers, learning his Spider senses, and the Uncle Ben death. However, what they didn't do well was back-fill that weight in other ways well enough. Its almost like they wanted to simply replace weight with more quips, and they ultimately took it too far. The terrible movie music score did not help in the slightest either. In fact, not having close to the emotional score of its predecessors was maybe one of its biggest downfalls. Scores truly can make or break the emotions of a movie. With that said, I've got other positives and negatives from the film that I'd like to note, so I figured a list would be the most appropriate. Caution: Very Mild Spoiler territory beyond


Positives
-Tom Holland is by far the best Spider-Man actor ever. While I liked some of the movies, I never liked Tobey or Andrew in the role. Tom Holland IS Spider-Man in every sense of the word.
-Loved the true high school kid format featuring the true diversity of Queens
-Really liked the John-Hughes vibe of the whole film which made it creative and unique
-The Vulture was one of the best villains in the MCU yet, probably right up there with Loki. Great performance by Keaton.
-The movie was hilarious with a lot of credit going to the supporting cast like Ned
-The movie tried hard not to retread aspects of previous Spidey films (if anything, they tried too hard though)
-Loved how interwoven the movie was into the entire MCU with a bazillion Easter eggs
-Had probably the best twist yet of any MCU movie. The twist made my jaw drop and was one of my favorite things about the movie.
-That dinner and car scene with Michael Keaton was terrifying and one of my all-time favorite scenes of any MCU movie. My wife was screaming during it.
-Just really loved the overall characterization of most everyone in the film
-Sets up the future of the MCU as well as Spider-Man's own personal world well
-Loved how they used smaller stakes in this movie, but made them feel big and personal. Not every movie has to be potential world-ending or city-destroying.

Negatives
-I thought the movie, while hilarious, went too far with the funny quips at the expense of more emotional weight
-Just overall lacked the heart and emotional weight of some of its predecessors or even its MCU peers
-Hated the characterization of Happy Hogan. The dude was a **** throughout with no redemption.
-Tony Stark was also a bit too much of a jerk throughout, even though he wasn't as bad as Hogan
-Really didn't love the overboard Ironmanization of Spidey's suit. Too many gadgets. I want Spidey to be more Spidey and less Iron Man.
-I thought the overall action was decent, but not great. Had Spidey do a few too many unrealistic too CGIish moves at times too.
-Actually wish the movie would have retread some things a bit more than it did to fill in some more backstory for us
-There was no iconic emotional moment like the Aunt May "Hero in all of us" speech of Spider-Man 2, no Spidey jumping the buildings while injured in The Amazing Spider-Man, no "with great power comes great responsibility" moment.... etc. Just never had that one big moment (my next point didn't help).
-While the music score was good fun at times, like pretty much every MCU movie to date, I thought the overall score just sucked. There was no new iconic Spidey songs like its predecessors that could hit hard with the emotion of the movie. In fact, I can't think back and remember one single song of the movie.

In the end, if I could sum all of this up in a few words, I'd almost have to say that my biggest disappointment in this movie was that it had too much fun with too little heart. Therefore, while it is up there with my favorite Spidey movies of all time, it is not my favorite, Spider-Man 2 is. That isn't to say that this movie isn't better in many ways than Spider-Man 2, because it is. It just didn't hook me emotionally the way that movie did to the point where Spider-Man became one of my all-time favorite heroes of my childhood. As for a MCU comparison, I think this movie also just has too many flaws to put it up there in the top tier. Like its fellow movie this year GOTG vol. 2, I'd call it much more of an upper second tier MCU movie. In fact, I thought this movie had many of the same flaws of GOTG vol. 2, but did at least have a better villain. For another summer comparison, I liked Wonder Woman better. While Homecoming had a better villain than Wonder Woman, I thought Wonder Woman balanced the comedy and drama better.

FYI... I'll soon repost my full MCU rankings to include this movie.
I agree with so much of this. Just got home from seeing it.

I thought it was a good Spider-Man movie, but just lacked some things (especially from Stark and Happy).

Holland is the perfect Spidet-Man and I would love for Sony and Disney to release the character for a 2 minute cameo in a Deadpool movie.

I felt like we needed more from Aunt May, they set the stage perfectly with her speech to Peter, but never followed through.

I walked away liking this Spider-Man more than I have any of the others, and way more than I liked him in Civil War. It just felt like the director couldn't fully decide what direction to take with the story and character.
 
One dumb thing that bothered me (from a common sense standpoint) is that he loses his back pack, tells Aunt May, and then we find out that he's gone through several this year. Can you not secure it about 15 feet off the ground with some webbing or something?!? I mean, it's New York and it's happened to you several times already. C'mon man!

You don't have any teenage boys, do you? :D
 
I just saw the new Spiderman movie today, and I loved it. Spiderman was my favorite as a kid, and I loved the fact that Peter Parker's personality more closely fit this personality in the comic books. I always loved the fact that he was such a smart a$$. The previous movies portrayed him as this dark tortured soul closer to Batman's persona. I do agree that the new suit was too much though.

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I was excited to see that Scorpion will be a future opponent.
 

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