ESPN just re-ran the 30 For 30 Show on Jimmy V last night. Sidney Lowe, Derek Whittenberg and all the others were lauding V for his unconventional thinking, beginning with the ACC tournament all the way thru the NCAA final versus Houston. I never heard anybody say "he was nuts" for fouling in a tie game; they said other coaches wouldn't have done it...
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ESPN just re-ran the 30 For 30 Show on Jimmy V last night. Sidney Lowe, Derek Whittenberg and all the others were lauding V for his unconventional thinking, beginning with the ACC tournament all the way thru the NCAA final versus Houston. I never heard anybody say "he was nuts" for fouling in a tie game; they said other coaches wouldn't have done it...
Sitting there in the arena I was hoping like crazy that we were going to foul. Maybe it's just being a pessimist but you knew nothing good was going to come of letting them run the clock to zero. Either they win on a shot, win on a foul called, or overtime comes and our completely exhausted team minus its best defender gets to face another 5 minutes against a deep team and their 10,000 fans.
I don't care what the percentages say, for the last 5-6 minutes of that game when we were on that run you can throw the percentages in the trash can.
I don't care what the percentages say, for the last 5-6 minutes of that game when we were on that run you can throw the percentages in the trash can.
Nice first post.
That video is pretty bad. He took 3 to 4 steps depending on when the ref thought Ross had possession of the ball. Talk about swallowing the whistle.
I agree -- these are situational decisions. The blanket-strategy of "foul/don't foul" or "3 vs. 2 FTs" is too simplistic.
I didn't have a huge problem letting them hold for the last shot in a tie game, but getting beat that way feels more "empty." I also wouldn't have deliberately put them at the line with a quick, fruitless foul.
A coach who believes in forcing the action in that situation has a couple of options.
(1) Make a serious play for a steal; at worst, you foul, they hit both FTs and you're down two with the ball and plenty of time for good shot. At best, you get a clean steal or a held ball; if nothing else, you disrupt the rhythm of the offensive plan (which could cause them to make turn it over on their own).
(2) Apply pressure on the ball and play loose near the basket, and dare them to take a shot they can't pass up with plenty of time left. They could score, of course, but you get final possession; or they screw it up because that wasn't what they expected.
Like any plan, these could backfire and bring second-guessing. It's like a fine line between "losing the game" and "allowing the other team to win."
I didn't have a huge problem letting them hold for the last shot in a tie game, but getting beat that way feels more "empty." I also wouldn't have deliberately put them at the line with a quick, fruitless foul.
A coach who believes in forcing the action in that situation has a couple of options.
(1) Make a serious play for a steal; at worst, you foul, they hit both FTs and you're down two with the ball and plenty of time for good shot. At best, you get a clean steal or a held ball; if nothing else, you disrupt the rhythm of the offensive plan (which could cause them to make turn it over on their own).
(2) Apply pressure on the ball and play loose near the basket, and dare them to take a shot they can't pass up with plenty of time left. They could score, of course, but you get final possession; or they screw it up because that wasn't what they expected.
Like any plan, these could backfire and bring second-guessing. It's like a fine line between "losing the game" and "allowing the other team to win."
Ohio State's road to the Final Four has to be one of the easiest ever for a two seed.
Round of 64: vs 15 seed
Round of 32: vs 10 seed
Sweet 16: vs 6 seed
Elite 8: vs 9 seed
Round of 64: vs 15 seed
Round of 32: vs 10 seed
Sweet 16: vs 6 seed
Elite 8: vs 9 seed
Not only did Craft get the phantom foul call but before the ball was inbounded he shoved the guy guarding him about 3 feet to get away from him. He got two big breaks on that inbounds play.
I would have preferred that, too.
I'm the same way when it comes to generic situations of (1) needing put the opponent at the line when you're trailing (or the need to burn fouls to put a team into the bonus for same reason) and (2) what to do when you're up by 3.
(1) is a fouling situation anyway -- you risk nothing.
(2) it's a judgment call, but if you are choosing the FTs over the 3, at least try to get something out of it.
Mel had the rb, until the OSU dude knocked it out. Check the replay. Zebras ignored it and Melvin's pleas that he didn't knock it out.
As much as I want to agree with you, I've watched this play many times and I think the motion of Ejim's arm pushed the ball forward off Thomas and out of bounds. Ejim's follow-through kept his hand on the ball after it hit Thomas.
Agree...obviously KU for you guys and OSU/MSU from Iowa's side. MSU gets away with murder under the hoop.
Ha! There's is one SEC team left and they are being completely ignored.
If they happen to win it, The Big Ten will melt like the nazis in the Indiana Jones movie.