ISU Gambling Megathread

[Iluvteak]

Any word on Dekkers suspension yet ? I read a few pages in this thread so sorry if I missed it.

 

[Clark]

Ok, well who should we trust when there are attorneys on both sides?

Neither side, ideally until the cases are presented in court.

 

[ozzie8]

Yeah, I'd be more inclined to agree with the waste of time crowd if so many of the players hadn't been found to have bet on their own games. This has been a pretty ****** deal for Shannon and Remsburg. The rest of them got what they deserved.

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[Pat]

Neither side, ideally until the cases are presented in court.

I’d be willing to bet this doesn’t make it to court.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

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The guys that bet on their own games ABSOLUTELY got what they deserved.

 

[ozzie8]

The guys that bet on their own games ABSOLUTELY got what they deserved.

No they did not. This wasn’t some elaborate NC State point shaving scheme here.

 

[knowlesjam]

Why investigate whether players are gambling on their own games?

Oh, I agree totally with you...it's why I said that gambling when you are an NCAA athlete is stupid. My bone here was the way the investigation happened. In my one agreement (in 20+ years) with Kirk Ferentz, why here, why Iowa (the state), why not all NCAA teams in Iowa? Why not investigate it everywhere...the gambling behemoths could provide that info...it's just that no one want to look under the skirt...they will not like what they find.

 

[isufbcurt]

No they did not. This wasn’t some elaborate NC State point shaving scheme here.

Exactly. Other than 1 instance by Isiah Lee it appears that all the guys who bet on their teams bet on their teams to win. I personally like that confidence.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Read everything involved in that Keith Murphy tweet and then promptly remind yourself this was for a crime that resulted in the payment of a $600 ticket. It's absolutely comical to think of the lengths they went to in order to write a few tickets.

When it comes to protecting the states investment in gambling it makes more sense. The integrity of the games has to be protected or that money spigot goes away. That’s why they only picked on athletes…this time.

 

[ARCYCLONE]

Oh, I agree totally with you...it's why I said that gambling when you are an NCAA athlete is stupid. My bone here was the way the investigation happened. In my one agreement (in 20+ years) with Kirk Ferentz, why here, why Iowa (the state), why not all NCAA teams in Iowa? Why not investigate it everywhere...the gambling behemoths could provide that info...it's just that no one want to look under the skirt...they will not like what they find.

I agree with all of this. If the NCAA is going to suspend Iowa and ISU athletes for this, they should publicly call out every state authority to investigate, or lead their own NCAA investigations, starting with every D1 school. Looking at the number of athletes and bets uncovered by one investigation into 2 schools shows there is a problem; and it's not isolated to our two schools and everyone in the country knows it.

 

[Cyched]

Props to Enyi and Hanika for getting a good attorney

 

[Clonehomer]

I’d be willing to bet this doesn’t make it to court.

If they’re not going to take a deal as their attorney says, then it’s either going to trial or charges get dropped. And if the charges get dropped, I’d imagine there will be a civil suit that will look to get to the bottom or what happened.

 

[Pat]

If they’re not going to take a deal as their attorney says, then it’s either going to trial or charges get dropped. And if the charges get dropped, I’d imagine there will be a civil suit that will look to get to the bottom or what happened.

And that suit will get settled before it gets to discovery, I suspect, based on what we’ve seen so far.

 

[MartyFine]

 

[ScottyP]

I don’t think he helps his cause much when he says he knew he was violating NCAA rules but didn’t realize how severe the punishment was.

 

[3TrueFans]

I don't know what he's hoping to accomplish there. I knew it was wrong, I just didn't know it was really wrong because I skipped the meeting?

 

[cydsho]

I don’t think he helps his cause much when he says he knew he was violating NCAA rules but didn’t realize how severe the punishment was.

Yeah but he said he "missed that meeting" so it's all good. I use that with my manager too and I rightly get slapped on the hand.
All he is proving is how bad UI compliance is.

 

[CoachHines3]

Can someone explain this to me?

 

[khardbored]

It boggles my mind why people are just taking the word of an attorney as if it is 100% fact. Maybe it is, but it's not his job to find the truth, it's his job to sew doubt.

^ this.

 

[qwerty]

It boggles my mind why people are just taking the word of an attorney as if it is 100% fact. Maybe it is, but it's not his job to find the truth, it's his job to sew doubt.

There is the problem, he is sewing doubt when he should be sowing doubt.