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Just going to say that what bothers me about the meltdown is that alot of people are missing the fact that we went what, 60 yards in 1:22, just missing the TD by six inches? And that despite a number of clearly bad spots.

I'm really looking forward to next week--and most especially, next season!
 
huntt26 said:
We have a fullback right? Give him the damn ball.
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We do, he just never sees the field.

Be careful here though, others on this site will bash you for your logic that a FB would be useful with less than a yard to go with the game on the line because obviously the coaches know their talent and system better than we do.
 
Aclone said:
Just going to say that what bothers me about the meltdown is that alot of people are missing the fact that we went what, 60 yards in 1:22, just missing the TD by six inches?
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Close only counts in horseshoes, archery, hand grenades and nuclear warfare.

I could list many times where ISU FB has been close. It simply does not cut it.
 
This was nearly the same situation that Missouri put themselves in at JTS in 2006. They were less than a yard away from winning the game with only seconds left. They lined Chase Daniel up in the shotgun and then tried to run him in. It gave his line time to hold the defenders and be seen doing it.

Why does it always seem like coaches try to out-smart themselves? You've got about 215 pounds worth of QB, and the defense is shading away from the line, EXPECTING the option, and we run right into their planned defense.

What do you think would happen to Austen if he would have just run a quick QB sneak once he saw the defense line up? Is he given the choice to make the change at the line? If not, why not? We didn't have a timeout to use to see what the defense lined up with. He should be given the option of running something that wouldn't get absolutely slaughtered.

What's the worst that would have happened to him had he changed it on his own? Run some laps? There is no other option unless we want to burn the redshirt on Tiller.
 
Colorado's hurry-up offense killed us. We seem to do very well when we run the hurry-up, like yesterday, UNLV, etc. I've often thought that we should bust out a hurry-up every once in a while, even when it's not an end-of-game situation.

Good idea or bad?
 
ISUAlum2002 said:
What do you think would happen to Austen if he would have just run a quick QB sneak once he saw the defense line up? Is he given the choice to make the change at the line? If not, why not?
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Maybe it had something to do with the fact that CU's defensive line goes Senior-Junior-Senior-Senior across the front, and probably wouldn't have been fooled.

Or the fact that there wasn't a whole lot of time to think about it.
 
isucyfan said:
Colorado's hurry-up offense killed us. We seem to do very well when we run the hurry-up, like yesterday, UNLV, etc. I've often thought that we should bust out a hurry-up every once in a while, even when it's not an end-of-game situation.

Good idea or bad?
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I was just getting ready to post the same thing.

It seems like our defense has absolutely no clue what to do when an opposing offense goes into hurry-up. I counted two plays in the 4th quarter where are d-linemen weren't even freaking lined up and CU was already running the play.

This is one thing I'd like to see us do. Even in the rare case that we DO get into a hurry-up offense, we still will wait for the defense to get lined up and to get their coverages set. Why? Why not just run up to the line and run the freaking play? There are no rules that indicate that we will be penalized for running plays while the defense is still trying to sub and get set.
 
Aclone said:
Maybe it had something to do with the fact that CU's defensive line goes Senior-Junior-Senior-Senior across the front, and probably wouldn't have been fooled.
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Right, 5 offensive linemen plus probably a tight end (will have to watch the replay again) and a 215 pound quarterback coming in versus 4 defensive linemen. I like our chances of getting the 2 feet needed to get the win. The linebackers were shading toward the right side.

Edit: For the record, if a QB sneak were run and failed, I would not be one to second guess the call. The option was the second worst play to be called in that situation second only to a fade route pass.
 
Our defense can barely get set in time for the snap when teams are not running a hurry up. When teams do pick up the pace - we're screwed.

Never would've thought we'd see that from a GC coached team.
 
ISUFan22 said:
Our defense can barely get set in time for the snap when teams are not running a hurry up. When teams do pick up the pace - we're screwed.

Never would've thought we'd see that from a GC coached team.
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Let's see. Going into this season we had new starters at both defensive tackles, two linebackers, and now both (freshman) corners and a safety. And they take time lining up.

Huh. Imagine that. :skeptical:
 
Aclone said:
Let's see. Going into this season we had new starters at both defensive tackles, two linebackers, and now both (freshman) corners and a safety. And they take time lining up.

Huh. Imagine that. :skeptical:
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You've gotta be dizzy by now from all that spin. Either that, or losing is just so fun for you.

Getting set in time for the snap is one of the most basic things - period.

But hey, we were close to winning yesterday which should make people less upset, by your standards.

ISUAlum2002 said:
Yeah, I mean, after all, it was only the 10th game of the season.
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Yeah, but - um...well...see...I know we're 10 games in...but....um...our guys are still young...errrr....
 
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Aclone said:
Yeah, and Leonard Johnson was a high school quarterback a year ago.

What, you think things are learned on the field the way you upload files to your computer?
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Come on, man. The "these guys are new to their positions" excuse goes out the window at about the mid-point of the season. They've had plenty of hours in practice to figure out how to freaking line up in time to be ready for the play to start. The most basic part of playing defense.
 
Aclone said:
Yeah, and Leonard Johnson was a high school quarterback a year ago.

What, you think things are learned on the field the way you upload files to your computer?
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Holy **** - does LJ play defensive line? 'Cuz it's the line and linebackers to an extent that can't get set.

Dan sure taught you well.

Question - did you watch the game yesterday?
 
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We play prevent defense for the last four minutes and make Hawkins look like and All-American. We don't have a secondary coach that can think of anything. Last play was designed to call a gut-check and tell the offensive line to get off their butts and block the undersize Colorado defensive linemen backwards at least a foot and have Arnaud sneak it in for the touchdown. An option call on a play that requires one foot is unbelievable!
Will Coach C. stay with these guys?
 
ISUFan22 said:
Holy **** - does LJ play defensive line? 'Cuz it's the line and linebackers to an extent that can't get set.
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Do you always pick and choose the bits you want to pay attention to?

Aclone said:
Let's see. Going into this season we had new starters at both defensive tackles, two linebackers, and now both (freshman) corners and a safety. And they take time lining up.
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If you like, Cameron Bell was a running back up until the season started last year. These guys just don't have the experience of, say, CU's front seven, who are all third or even fourth year starters.

And I'll repeat this for you once more. Gene Chizik himself said that the only way for the defensive tackles to get better is through experience. Nate Frere, for one, certaily looks like he's starting to benefit from that experience.
 
So it takes 10 games - and multiple years in some cases - for guys to get set before the offense snaps the football? Why do they bother conducting football practice if these things can't be addressed there?

Aclone said:
Do you always pick and choose the bits you want to pay attention to?
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Pot, meet Kettle.
 
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ISUFan22 said:
So it takes 10 games - and multiple years in some cases - for guys to get set before the offense snaps the football? Why do they bother conducting football practice if these things can't be addressed there?
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Oddly enough, I'd say yes, it's easier for a fifth year senior who has been starting for three or four seasons (along with all of those aforementioned practices in between) to read how an offense is setting up, understand what they are seeing, and then get lined up themselves.

They don't see the same formations every week, you know. They change. Just like the uniforms they're seeing.

You may not realize this, but when a lineman is down in the stance, they can't see a great deal of the other team's formation. :skeptical:
 
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