Iowa new transfer?

Anyone who uses the RPI as the basis to any argument regarding college basketball loses any and all credibility. The RPI is an incredibly outdated model that does not factor in margin of victory and rewards teams for scheduling DII schools. Any ranking system that boasts New Mexico, Colorado State, and Belmont as top 20 teams this past season should be given no credence to any argument involving college basketball.

So now SOS isn't relevant in college basketball?
 
Anyone who uses the RPI as the basis to any argument regarding college basketball loses any and all credibility. The RPI is an incredibly outdated model that does not factor in margin of victory and rewards teams for scheduling DII schools. Any ranking system that boasts New Mexico as the second best team in the country, as well as Colorado State and Belmont as top 20 teams this past season should be given no credence to any argument involving college basketball.
Would you prefer to use BPI? Because ISU still had a tougher schedule than Iowa in that.
 
Anyone who uses the RPI as the basis to any argument regarding college basketball loses any and all credibility. The RPI is an incredibly outdated model that does not factor in margin of victory and rewards teams for scheduling DII schools. Any ranking system that boasts New Mexico as the second best team in the country, as well as Colorado State and Belmont as top 20 teams this past season should be given no credence to any argument involving college basketball.
Anybody that ranks Iowa in the top 5 preseason in basketball next year should be fired and stoned. Bubble team at best. What you don't seem to get is, you think a bunch of average players with a couple above average players will sprout into bluechips over the summer and contend for titles. There is a ceiling for those players and its far lower than you think it is.
 
1. Sure it matters. They can't recruit players who aren't hawk fans. I will take Michigans Mr Basketball and Wisconsin's runner up over Peter Jok any day.
2. Bahahahahaha. Top 5 are you kidding me. Link?
3. Last year was a strong year for the B10 but the last 3 years, please...

What difference does it make where a recruit played HS ball? They play more games during the AAU/Grassroots season than during their high school season and are thus exposed to higher caliber players regardless of where they are from. You can have Michigan's Mr. Basketball, I'll take Nebraska's Mr. Basketball.
 
What difference does it make where a recruit played HS ball? They play more games during the AAU/Grassroots season than during their high school season and are thus exposed to higher caliber players regardless of where they are from. You can have Michigan's Mr. Basketball, I'll take Nebraska's Mr. Basketball.

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What difference does it make where a recruit played HS ball? They play more games during the AAU/Grassroots season than during their high school season and are thus exposed to higher caliber players regardless of where they are from. You can have Michigan's Mr. Basketball, I'll take Nebraska's Mr. Basketball.
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Anyone who uses the RPI as the basis to any argument regarding college basketball loses any and all credibility.

So the NCAA tournament committee has no credibility? Interesting argument. Your position here essentially is: Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind.


You can have Michigan's Mr. Basketball, I'll take Nebraska's Mr. Basketball.

Done and done. LOL. Because there are as many HS bball players in nebraska as michigan, right?
 
Are you blind? Post #117.

Digging pretty deep there if you call Dino Gaudio an expert. Pretty sad when an Iowa based website doesn't even agree with Dino.

Iowa Listed on Several 2013-2014 Top 25 Preseason Basketball Polls - Black Heart Gold Pants

The last, best ranking? Per Brendan Stiles, Dino Gaudio (former Wake Forest head coach) went on one of ESPN's shows and put Iowa at friggin' No. 5 in the nation, tops among all Big Ten teams. For real:



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We can't find video of the... let's call it "incident" on ESPN.com, and that's because we're guessing a producer grabbed him after the segment and asked "what the hell was that?!" and doing the throat slash motion to make sure all evidence of the segment was destroyed. But one TwitPic survived! ...anyway, yeah, this is crazyballs.
 
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Anybody that ranks Iowa in the top 5 preseason in basketball next year should be fired and stoned. Bubble team at best. What you don't seem to get is, you think a bunch of average players with a couple above average players will sprout into bluechips over the summer and contend for titles. There is a ceiling for those players and its far lower than you think it is.

What you fail to realize is that a team consisting of mainly white players and average to above average athletes can still be a good team. For example, Devyn Marble is a slightly above average athlete, but he is a much better than a slightly above average player. To pigeonhole all Iowa's players as average simply because they don't look a certain way or don't jump high enough for you shows an extreme lack of basketball knowledge. If you think Iowa is a "bubble team at best," I have some oceanfront property in Wyoming that I'd like to sell you.
 
So the NCAA tournament committee has no credibility? Interesting argument. Your position here essentially is: Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind.




Done and done. LOL. Because there are as many HS bball players in nebraska as michigan, right?

The NCAA is relying less and less on the RPI to formulate their decisions, and that has been well documented by both journalists and members of the NCAA committee. It would not surprise me if the RPI is completely dropped from consideration in the next couple years.

Again, that has little to do with how good a player is. After all, Nebraska's 2011 Mr. Basketball was more highly rated than Michigan's 2012 Mr. Basketball.
 
Digging pretty deep there if you call Dino Gaudio an expert.

Show me where I ever referred to Gaudio as an "expert." The bottom line is that college basketball analysts are talking, tweeting, and writing about the University of Iowa as being a top 25 team next year (Gaudio, **** Vitale, Jon Rothstein- the list goes on and on). The same cannot be said for Iowa State.
 
For example, Devyn Marble is a slightly above average athlete, but he is a much better than a slightly above average player.

According to whom? Because his entire offer list was: Buffalo, Dayton, Detroit, Fairfield, Iowa, Providence. Doesn't strike me as a player much higher than average. Unless the player pool we are considering here is all people who have ever played basketball in their lives. Then I completely agree with you.
 
What you fail to realize is that a team consisting of mainly white players and average to above average athletes can still be a good team. For example, Devyn Marble is a slightly above average athlete, but he is a much better than a slightly above average player. To pigeonhole all Iowa's players as average simply because they don't look a certain way or don't jump high enough for you shows an extreme lack of basketball knowledge. If you think Iowa is a "bubble team at best," I have some oceanfront property in Wyoming that I'd like to sell you.
Link? Because yes, they are a bubble team.
 
Again, that has little to do with how good a player is. After all, Nebraska's 2011 Mr. Basketball was more highly rated than Michigan's 2012 Mr. Basketball.

Ranked how? Comparing players across years on ordinal rankings is idiotic and tells you nothing. Statistics fail.
 
Show me where I ever referred to Gaudio as an "expert." The bottom line is that college basketball analysts are talking, tweeting, and writing about the University of Iowa as being a top 25 team next year (Gaudio, **** Vitale, Jon Rothstein- the list goes on and on). The same cannot be said for Iowa State.

Who cares, pre-season rankings mean squat. I couldn't care less about being ranked at the beginning of the season, what matters is on selection Sunday.
 
According to whom? Because his entire offer list was: Buffalo, Dayton, Detroit, Fairfield, Iowa, Providence. Doesn't strike me as a player much higher than average. Unless the player pool we are considering here is all people who have ever played basketball in their lives. Then I completely agree with you.

Are you aware that through coaching, maturation, and hard work and determination, high school players can actually improve upon the abilities they had in high school? Would you call a guard who averaged 15, 4, and 3 "slightly above average"? If so, Clyburn was also a slightly above average basketball player at Iowa State last season.
 
The bottom line is that college basketball analysts are talking, tweeting, and writing about the University of Iowa as being a top 25 team next year (Gaudio, **** Vitale, Jon Rothstein- the list goes on and on). The same cannot be said for Iowa State.

Vitale did not say they were a top 25 team. Liar.

**** Vitale's Preseason Top 40 for 2013-14 - ESPN
 
Ranked how? Comparing players across years on ordinal rankings is idiotic and tells you nothing. Statistics fail.

For starters, Mike Gesell received a "92" scout's grade from ESPN, while Monte Morris received an "84". I am aware that is only one example from a rather vast expanse of recruiting websites, but it is a relevant example nonetheless.
 
The NCAA is relying less and less on the RPI to formulate their decisions, and that has been well documented by both journalists and members of the NCAA committee. It would not surprise me if the RPI is completely dropped from consideration in the next couple years.

Again, that has little to do with how good a player is. After all, Nebraska's 2011 Mr. Basketball was more highly rated than Michigan's 2012 Mr. Basketball.

Maybe you should hire a fact checker. Rivals is the #1 recruiting ranking out there and Gessell was not ranked higher than Morris

Monte Morris - Yahoo! Sports

Mike Gesell - Yahoo! Sports
 

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