Something about glass houses..... Names like Berryman and Gary are coming to mind.
Iowa new transfer?
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Something about glass houses..... Names like Berryman and Gary are coming to mind.
Thanks for acknowledging the hypocrisy of the Iowa fans who criticized Hoiberg for taking transfers, then don't criticize Fran for it.
Now, we will find out if Fran has Fred's magic in dealing with these players with baggage. Fred has a good track record of keeping these guys out of trouble, helping them contribute to the team, and getting lots of praise from them when their college careers are done.
Guess Fran and Rhoads have something in common. At least Fran cut him loose instead of putting him in the starting lineup.
If 99% of ISU fans claimed we do things the right way and Iowa is doing things the wrong way you may have a point. Fran is an improvement from Lick but still sucks as a coach compared to Hoiball and the Hawkeye fan base is in a jealous rage so they talk about bs like "doing it the right way". Fran's "right way" is recruiting a 25 year old convicted felon.
Hope you enjoyed getting blown out by Baylor and winning that big home game against Grassy Meadow University.
It's pretty annoying and is thinly veiled jealousy. Fred had done a tremendous job keeping those guys out of trouble. He almost appears to be a miracle worker given the trainwreck that is Royce White.
Nice job bringing this thread back to the main point.
As much as EIU fans criticize Hoiberg for his transfers, it is just a matter of time until they attack Fran.
So, why aren't you on HN making this point? Nobody there seems to be saying anything like this.
Same diff. Maybe worse. He advocated for a felon to rejoin the team when said felon committed the felony on his own campus against fellow students not all that long ago. One guy was a getaway driver. The other pulled a gun on students at the university where the man with a say in his fate is the head coach.. I'll let you decide which is worse though I have little faith you can take off the cardinal and gold glasses to actually acknowledge it.
Have before. It's the same as dealing with extreme homers here. Impossible to get through to people who only see things their way.
Actually, I was one of the people that wanted him gone. But you said Rhoads offered a felon, which isn't true.
Gary pulled a BB gun (still a felony) on a student. He was suspended (should have been kicked off the team) and served his time. He wasn't a felon when the scholarship was extended.
Hubbard was with a group of guys that beat up and tied up an old man and robbed him. He then drove them away and spent nearly 4 years in prison. Then Fran decided to give him a scholarship and the guy couldn't even make it a couple of months before breaking team rules and getting booted.
If it blows up in his face, they will. Pierce debacle is still in the minds of most. Probably why Hubbard was let go so soon. Don't know what he did, but there was a microscope on everything he did; and rightfully so. Fran knew this and probably figured the coins outweighed the pros. If Hubbard f'd up then Fran was probably out the door with him . He would at least keep his job if Iowa had an average season without Hubbard and would have more time to build the program.
Good to hear your moral compass is working. For the record I didn't want Hubbard anywhere near Iowa. Nothing good could come from that and nothing did. Just more bad press
True he didn't extend an offer to a felon, but by letting him rejoin it's basically yhecsame thing. Perfect opportunity to cut all ties with him and look like an ethical coach. He did not ( and likely only b/c Gary has talent) and now Gary is a felon and likely in the starting lineup. You're really splitting hairs here. Both were dirt bags that should probably still be in jail. The only difference, and you'll still probably disagree with me, is one is still playing.
Again, so why hang out here and mostly talk about our players? Why not make at least one post on HN about this situation? Hmmmm.
Again, I have. Honestly your board is much more active. HN is beyond dead and seems to be getting worse with each new day. Very much enjoy your off topic and political stuff. HN doesn't even allow that anymore. And I do like to read up on what's going on with ISU so as to at least know what I'm talking about sports wise with my bro ('01 ISU grad)
Have neither seen your username on the HN thread nor read anything from a non-ISU poster that is criticizing Fran like they criticized Fred for not doing it the "right way."
Have you seen our team lately?? It's like we are playing with 8 guys on the field anyways.