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I'm supposed to give you telling info on something I know nothing about? What are my assertive takes?
I think it has to do with you tip toeing around the whole thing. I realize you were responding to a direct question on what was happening but a lot of Iowa fans on here have given off a "we'll just have to wait and see if things get better" attitude from the beginning of all of this.
 
I think it has to do with you tip toeing around the whole thing. I realize you were responding to a direct question on what was happening but a lot of Iowa fans on here have given off a "we'll just have to wait and see if things get better" attitude from the beginning of all of this.
What essentially is said by them is: Nothing bad probably ever happened and if it did it was handled appropriately. Which, considering former players suing them among a multitude of other crap in all of this, can’t really be the case.
 
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To be honest if the diversity committee was just for show and wasn't actually going to try to solve anything then I almost give credit for not just virtue signaling.

The bigger more glaring issue is either way Iowa and KF are completely tone deaf and are basically doubling down acting like culture is all good. Just keep winning and the proverbial rug to sweep all things under will be large enough. They had the spotlight on them and just gave lip service to shut people up. Took about 2 seconds for local media to be satisfied to the point where they cared more about pineapple pizza than young men being discriminated against for their skin color.
 
I think it has to do with you tip toeing around the whole thing. I realize you were responding to a direct question on what was happening but a lot of Iowa fans on here have given off a "we'll just have to wait and see if things get better" attitude from the beginning of all of this.
And that the people that actually perpetrated the acts for 20 years deserve the chance to change it

Now, it’s I just don’t know, but hopefully business as usual won’t lead to anymore kids speaking out.
 
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I think it has to do with you tip toeing around the whole thing. I realize you were responding to a direct question on what was happening but a lot of Iowa fans on here have given off a "we'll just have to wait and see if things get better" attitude from the beginning of all of this.
I get that but I don't know what type of answer you expect from a person who has no real connection to the team behind closed doors. You can call it tip toeing but I call it not knowing. Obviously the culture was unhealthy to many in the program but I can't really give you much more behind the scenes. It seemed like from what I read the committee may of been window dressing from the start as Porter documented it wasn't taken seriously. Hopefully between players and staff though there is mutual respect and healthy relationships. I don't know though. I'll continue to comment on games here. I know a bad playcall when I see one
 
I get that but I don't know what type of answer you expect from a person who has no real connection to the team behind closed doors. You can call it tip toeing but I call it not knowing. Obviously the culture was unhealthy to many in the program but I can't really give you much more behind the scenes. It seemed like from what I read the committee may of been window dressing from the start as Porter documented it wasn't taken seriously. Hopefully between players and staff though there is mutual respect and healthy relationships. I don't know though. I'll continue to comment on games here though. I know a bad playcall when I see one
I asked this of you before, but how can you support a guy that you know is racist and treats his African American players differently?

I was a raiders fan from before I was ever interested in Iowa State, and I gave that up without even thinking about it when gruden’s emails went public, and they even did the right thing and fired him.
 
To be honest if the diversity committee was just for show and wasn't actually going to try to solve anything then I almost give credit for not just virtue signaling.

The bigger more glaring issue is either way Iowa and KF are completely tone deaf and are basically doubling down acting like culture is all good. Just keep winning and the proverbial rug to sweep all things under will be large enough. They had the spotlight on them and just gave lip service to shut people up. Took about 2 seconds for local media to be satisfied to the point where they cared more about pineapple pizza than young men being discriminated against for their skin color.
We certainly don't know all the details and never will but it may not be a coincidence that the man leading the committee (and placed their by Kirk) came out and said we can't make true progress in all of this unless Kirk steps down.

I still don't understand the notion that Kirk would put a guy in that spot that already had it out for him. Kirk wouldn't do that. He wants yes men. So maybe that guy was learning more info and listening to players and was like "yeah, we need full-scale change". Plus remember the information about coaches just not taking this committee seriously and just being flat-out unprepared for those meetings?

This committee didn't stand a chance since day one.
 
I get that but I don't know what type of answer you expect from a person who has no real connection to the team behind closed doors. You can call it tip toeing but I call it not knowing. Obviously the culture was unhealthy to many in the program but I can't really give you much more behind the scenes. It seemed like from what I read the committee may of been window dressing from the start as Porter documented it wasn't taken seriously. Hopefully between players and staff though there is mutual respect and healthy relationships. I don't know though. I'll continue to comment on games here. I know a bad playcall when I see one
That is the problem. It was window dressing from the start so instead of reforming it into something real he just does away with it. That's okay, he just put another bullet in the gun that is pointed at him and his program by the pending lawsuit.
 
That is the problem. It was window dressing from the start so instead of reforming it into something real he just does away with it. That's okay, he just put another bullet in the gun that is pointed at him and his program by the pending lawsuit.
That's a fair point that I don't feel comfortable disagreeing with it but for some here I think that's what they want, not all though.
 
I get that but I don't know what type of answer you expect from a person who has no real connection to the team behind closed doors. You can call it tip toeing but I call it not knowing. Obviously the culture was unhealthy to many in the program but I can't really give you much more behind the scenes. It seemed like from what I read the committee may of been window dressing from the start as Porter documented it wasn't taken seriously. Hopefully between players and staff though there is mutual respect and healthy relationships. I don't know though. I'll continue to comment on games here. I know a bad playcall when I see one
The committee was window dressing to the staff members who didn't give a **** which include Kirk, Wallace and Brian. The shear fact that Porter was placed there by Kirk and thought Kirk needed to go should be eye opening.

And I'm not saying Porter's opinion should've been the nail in the coffin. I'm just saying the optics of that entire situation looked bad. Dissolving the committee entirely looked bad. And now just not reforming the committee at all looks bad.
 
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The committee was window dressing to the staff members who didn't give a **** which include Kirk, Wallace and Brian. The shear fact that Porter was placed there by Kirk and thought Kirk needed to go should be eye opening.

And I'm not saying Porter's opinion should've been the nail in the coffin. I'm just saying the optics of that entire situation looked bad. Dissolving the committee entirely looked bad. And now just not reforming the committee at all looks bad.
The funny part was that Porter even framed it in a way that gave Kirk a pass, and blamed all of the others.

They didn’t even come to a meeting with a simple answer to what can you do to make things better. They couldn’t be bothered to take 15 minutes and come up with a simple answer, even though they didn’t mean any of it.
 
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The committee was window dressing to the staff members who didn't give a **** which include Kirk, Wallace and Brian. The shear fact that Porter was placed there by Kirk and thought Kirk needed to go should be eye opening.

And I'm not saying Porter's opinion should've been the nail in the coffin. I'm just saying the optics of that entire situation looked bad. Dissolving the committee entirely looked bad. And now just not reforming the committee at all looks bad.
I'm beginning to think that Kirk, Wallace and Brian didn't change which is why Porter thought Kirk needed to go.
 
What does who want?
They have convinced themselves that it isn’t really about Iowa not only condoning, but encouraging racism in their football program, it’s about Iowa state wanting Iowa to fail.

You would think if you’re concerned about Amy sort of equal rights, you’d realize how ridiculous that is.
 
The committee was window dressing to the staff members who didn't give a **** which include Kirk, Wallace and Brian. The shear fact that Porter was placed there by Kirk and thought Kirk needed to go should be eye opening.

And I'm not saying Porter's opinion should've been the nail in the coffin. I'm just saying the optics of that entire situation looked bad. Dissolving the committee entirely looked bad. And now just not reforming the committee at all looks bad.
Oh and remember that email the football program sent out the very day the story broke guaranteeing all of the recruits that the committee was going to be reformed?
 
They have convinced themselves that it isn’t really about Iowa not only condoning, but encouraging racism in their football program, it’s about Iowa state wanting Iowa to fail.

You would think if you’re concerned about Amy sort of equal rights, you’d realize how ridiculous that is.
Aka deflection
 
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Oh and remember that email the football program sent out the very day the story broke guaranteeing all of the recruits that the committee was going to be reformed?
Holy **** I forgot about that! The email that "Kirk" wrote and somehow got leaked to the Iowa press lol.
 
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That's a fair point that I don't feel comfortable disagreeing with it but for some here I think that's what they want, not all though.
I want Iowa kids to be treated fairly. But I am to the point where I don't think that is possible under Ferentz so if it means Kirk has to step on his crank with golf shoes on a few more times to move the process along, so be it.

I know a some pretty rabid Iowa football fans who have been pretty uncomfortable with how this has all gone down from the beginning. I get the feeling that is the camp you are in. It is tough to remain a loyal hawkeye (insert whatever fanbase here depending on the specific circumstance) and see that things haven't been right when you still aren't sure it is totally being rectified. I get it.
 
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I get that but I don't know what type of answer you expect from a person who has no real connection to the team behind closed doors. You can call it tip toeing but I call it not knowing. Obviously the culture was unhealthy to many in the program but I can't really give you much more behind the scenes. It seemed like from what I read the committee may of been window dressing from the start as Porter documented it wasn't taken seriously. Hopefully between players and staff though there is mutual respect and healthy relationships. I don't know though. I'll continue to comment on games here. I know a bad playcall when I see one
Kirk has clearly changed....
 

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