Iowa -7 vs ISU

Good comeback, I checked. You guys are 11th in the conference. The lowest graduation rate was higher than what Doyle needs for a bonus. That might as well just be added to his salary. Looks like a bonus for just showing up, maybe just for breathing.

WOW! That's sad!
 
When iSu can get to Iowa’s level of success then you can call it mediocre. I have a feeling though iSu fans and CMC himself would be thrilled with Iowa’s level of achievement.

I won't speak for rest of the Cyclone fans but I would take the level of success I see coming from CMCs program over KFs stale product any day. You will go drop some blather about the last 15.275 years or something, yada. This is about buzz around the program, heck the nation for that fact with CMC and the future. Just like Doyle's raise is about the future.

You are correct - two very different program approaches -

One is investing, growing, trending up. One is tired, scared, clinging to worn out leaders.
 
So to sum this up on what we've learned:

1. Doyle is overpaid and gets a raise for a really low graduation rate
2. KF isn't respected by high school coaches compared to CMC
3. An Iowa fan actually thinks KF is better than Snyder lol
 
So to sum this up on what we've learned:

1. Doyle is overpaid and gets a raise for a really low graduation rate
2. KF isn't respected by high school coaches compared to CMC
3. An Iowa fan actually thinks KF is better than Snyder lol

Whatever view of reality helps you feel better Cytwins. Claim victory and go get yourself a cookie.
 
That's a great comparison...

Ferentz, 143-97, $5.05 Million
Snyder, 210-110-1, $3.06 Million

How about strength/conditioning...

Doyle, $750,000
Dawson, $320,000

Looks like KSU for the win here...
This page on his wiki tells me enough I need to know about the type of person he is too:

In the early morning hours of New Year's Day, 2004, police were called to the Kansas State team hotel in Paradise Valley, Arizona, by a woman who accused quarterback Ell Roberson of sexually assaulting her.[18] Roberson and the rest of the Kansas State team were in town to play Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Police did not arrest Roberson, and later determined that no crime had been committed and no charges should be filed,[19] but an investigation by the Kansas State athletic department concluded that Roberson and several other players had violated unspecified team rules.[20] As a result, Snyder stripped Roberson of his scholarship, denied the players their Fiesta Bowl rings and required them to perform community service. Snyder also issued an open letter of apology to the people of Kansas and supporters of Kansas State's football program for the conduct of his players in the days leading up to the bowl game. The Wildcats wound up losing the Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State 35-28.
 
This page on his wiki tells me enough I need to know about the type of person he is too:

In the early morning hours of New Year's Day, 2004, police were called to the Kansas State team hotel in Paradise Valley, Arizona, by a woman who accused quarterback Ell Roberson of sexually assaulting her.[18] Roberson and the rest of the Kansas State team were in town to play Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Police did not arrest Roberson, and later determined that no crime had been committed and no charges should be filed,[19] but an investigation by the Kansas State athletic department concluded that Roberson and several other players had violated unspecified team rules.[20] As a result, Snyder stripped Roberson of his scholarship, denied the players their Fiesta Bowl rings and required them to perform community service. Snyder also issued an open letter of apology to the people of Kansas and supporters of Kansas State's football program for the conduct of his players in the days leading up to the bowl game. The Wildcats wound up losing the Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State 35-28.

Snyder learned from the best, Hayden Fry.
 
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