Interesting quote from Pollard
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So given the criteria the experts on this board have established, name one AD that's been good at hiring football coaches?
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There are, but it's not a measure by which the AD is judged. Not really. Scandals aside, AD's are hired and fired based on the health of their football and basketball programs. No AD gets fired because the wrestling program isn't performing. Not in 2015.
CPR was a good hire at the time and what ISU needed. Sure the wins didn't come as of late but he helped get a lot into place for ISU going forward.
As for KJ, that was a risky hire, but with his wrestling background it should have worked. He just isn't a college coach I guess.
As for KJ, that was a risky hire, but with his wrestling background it should have worked. He just isn't a college coach I guess.
This. Wrestling fans get all defensive but it's just not anything any AD is evaluated on. Outside of the local beats covering specific universities there is no coverage. It's not on ESPN, Sports Center doesn't talk about it, there is essentially no national level interest until the NCAA final on Saturday and than it is limited to the handful of schools that are good at it.
I like cross country. I even went out to see the gals run this fall in a meet. That's just me. I used to run. I am interested. I don't expect everyone else to like it because I do. And the AD sure as hell isn't going to be judged to harshly if the x-country team fails.
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Everyone in the country liked both the Chizik hire and the CPR hire.
The fan base was pretty split on Hoiberg, with a lot of people thinking it was the dumbest move in the world. Outside of Ames, there were people literally laughing on the air about us hiring Hoiberg.
Your memory is incorrect, and your insight is insipid.
yep. In 2014, more people went to see ISU play Viterbo in basketball than attended the entire season of the wrestling team. There may be "a lot" of people who care about wrestling, but when you can't break 15,000 for the whole season, you're not a driving force when it comes to the athletics. You just aren't. Valley High School gets more people to show up per football game than ISU wrestling does.
Wrestling is dying and frankly, we are not ever going to get back to an elite level. I'd rather have baseball or hockey to be honest.
Another comment from Pollard was about MCs sideline demeanor being stoic. After watching Hoiberg this was a trait I hoped to see. Was also impressed that JP set up for the interview not knowing if MC could make it. Chance favors the prepared.
I think this point could have been easily expressed without calling fellow cyclone fans mouth breathers.
Hoiberg was actually a high risk hire since Fred had absolutely ZERO Coaching experience. None. Fred had not even been an assistant. Pollard's hiring of Fred was all about Pollard's evaluation of Fred as a person.
Chizik was considered a home run hire. Rhoads didn't work out long term. But I still do not consider Rhoads to be a mistake. The early years were okay IMO.
Which cnadidate would you have hired instead of Paul Rhoads?
I'll summerize this thread. Chizik, nationally lauded hire at the time, did get some great players which probably benifited Rhoads. Rhoads, although fired he did do a lot of things right and wasn't necessarily a failure. Hoiberg was a huge risk at the time and is the biggest JP hire to date. Feel as though Prohm and MC are the same hire, young, big upside, smaller school winners with high character who share the vision of ISU. Wrestling at ISU should be important but is easily backseat to FB and BB even in Iowa.
I honestly feel as though JP has done an overall great job at ISU and I get some of the complaints (didn't hire Harbaugh, Briles, Kelly- likely would have only used ISU as 3yr stepping stone) but BB and FB are better than what he started with and I firmly stand behind what he has built here. I have heard some call for his job and I don't agree with that at all
I honestly feel as though JP has done an overall great job at ISU and I get some of the complaints (didn't hire Harbaugh, Briles, Kelly- likely would have only used ISU as 3yr stepping stone) but BB and FB are better than what he started with and I firmly stand behind what he has built here. I have heard some call for his job and I don't agree with that at all