In state recruiting for 2015 class

Sounds like the offer is at QB. Lots of good OL talent in this class. I'm very confused why we are waiting so long on offers. As someone else stated, if Iowa can evaluate one thing it's OL. And that seems to be our weak spot every damn year.
 
They must see something they like, or they are telling him they like him at another position. Haven't heard which it is is, but I'm sure it will come out. My guess (and it is only a guess at this point) is they view him like a AJ Derby. They see him at a different position, but they may give him a shot a QB first if he wants it.

They offered him as a QB so I'm guessing you're right (feels weird saying that last part)
 
Sounds like the offer is at QB. Lots of good OL talent in this class. I'm very confused why we are waiting so long on offers. As someone else stated, if Iowa can evaluate one thing it's OL. And that seems to be our weak spot every damn year.

Well i do know is the Bleil was recruiting them and they loved him, as Bleil was from around there and a still has family there. I wonder if him moving on affected the recruiting of the twins??
 
Sounds like the offer is at QB. Lots of good OL talent in this class. I'm very confused why we are waiting so long on offers. As someone else stated, if Iowa can evaluate one thing it's OL. And that seems to be our weak spot every damn year.

Isu is probably behind a little due to the staff changes. Heck, they didn't have an OL coach until last week. Probably aren't going to offer any OLs that aren't a sure thing until the new coach signs off.
 
Why does everyone just assume that ISU and Iowa are recruiting the same type of kid? That's not accurate. ISU and Iowa have differences in offensive and defensive styles. The difference in style of play in the B1G versus the Big 12 is pretty significant. A kid that is talented might fit Iowa's schemes like a glove while not really fitting ISU's. I'm not saying ISU doesn't end up offering some of these kids or that they don't fit our scheme but it's pretty obvious ISU would like more time evaluating the talent before making offers.
 
Why does everyone just assume that ISU and Iowa are recruiting the same type of kid? That's not accurate. ISU and Iowa have differences in offensive and defensive styles. The difference in style of play in the B1G versus the Big 12 is pretty significant. A kid that is talented might fit Iowa's schemes like a glove while not really fitting ISU's. I'm not saying ISU doesn't end up offering some of these kids or that they don't fit our scheme but it's pretty obvious ISU would like more time evaluating the talent before making offers.

Pretty sure that good offensive lineman fit ISUs scheme.
 
They offered him as a QB so I'm guessing you're right (feels weird saying that last part)

He's a great prospect as a qb and I'm not sure what other position he would project to. At about 6-1 or 2, probably too short for a tight end, and not a real flat out speed guy so probably not the pure speed for a d-back. The thing is Iowa has at least 1 and I think 2 4 star qb's already, including one in Boyle's class, so that's how much they must think of him. But he's not a pro style qb and he would seem to fit our type of offense much better, at least if Mangino keeps it anything similar to what we've had. I can't believe we haven't offered him already and maybe we still will as his skills would seem to fit better with us and it could be a better overall situation for him as a qb in Ames.
 
Why does everyone just assume that ISU and Iowa are recruiting the same type of kid? That's not accurate. ISU and Iowa have differences in offensive and defensive styles. The difference in style of play in the B1G versus the Big 12 is pretty significant. A kid that is talented might fit Iowa's schemes like a glove while not really fitting ISU's. I'm not saying ISU doesn't end up offering some of these kids or that they don't fit our scheme but it's pretty obvious ISU would like more time evaluating the talent before making offers.

I could see this at some positions, but not at OL. QB? Sure, some want mobile guys, some pro style, some a combo. Yet a good OL blocks, plain and simple. Who cares besides that?
 
Actually, the relevant point is more likely just how irrelevant rankings are.

I think our conference ranking in terms of W/L's is like a mirror of recruiting rankings. The only people that claim the rankings down matter are usually the ones not recruiting very well (and of course, not winning that much).

Our .428 winning percentage over the last 5 years (all under CPR) speaks volumes about our **** poor recruiting and the talent level in the program (or lack thereof).
 
He's a great prospect as a qb and I'm not sure what other position he would project to. At about 6-1 or 2, probably too short for a tight end, and not a real flat out speed guy so probably not the pure speed for a d-back. The thing is Iowa has at least 1 and I think 2 4 star qb's already, including one in Boyle's class, so that's how much they must think of him. But he's not a pro style qb and he would seem to fit our type of offense much better, at least if Mangino keeps it anything similar to what we've had. I can't believe we haven't offered him already and maybe we still will as his skills would seem to fit better with us and it could be a better overall situation for him as a qb in Ames.
I can.

With Run DLC (Darius Lee-Campbell), we have five quarterbacks on scholarship, and none of them graduate. CPR even said that with this class, it was Darius or they wouldn't sign one at all. So I'm not terribly surprised they haven't offered Boyle yet.
 
A family member of mine had the opportunity to coach Boyle before he moved to Dowling Catholic. He says he is the real deal as far as his athletic ability goes.
 
I can.

With Run DLC (Darius Lee-Campbell), we have five quarterbacks on scholarship, and none of them graduate. CPR even said that with this class, it was Darius or they wouldn't sign one at all. So I'm not terribly surprised they haven't offered Boyle yet.

I don't claim to be a recruiting expert, but from watching DLC's highlight reel he's a great runner, but I didn't think he stood out as a passer as far as a d-1 prospect. He may turn out to be a very good or excellent passer, but if not, he looks like a great athlete that could be a receiver or safety with his size and speed, maybe even at the next level. He's also a class ahead of Boyle. Imo qb's like Boyle don't come along in Iowa very often and along with his great running and passing skills, he seems to have that "it" factor the good qb's have, even as a junior. Just don't think we can afford not to offer a kid this good that's 30 miles down the road from Ames, and I think he would fit in our offense better than he would at Iiowa. But maybe Iowa thinks they can make a pocket passer out of him.
 
I don't claim to be a recruiting expert, but from watching DLC's highlight reel he's a great runner, but I didn't think he stood out as a passer as far as a d-1 prospect. He may turn out to be a very good or excellent passer, but if not, he looks like a great athlete that could be a receiver or safety with his size and speed, maybe even at the next level. He's also a class ahead of Boyle. Imo qb's like Boyle don't come along in Iowa very often and along with his great running and passing skills, he seems to have that "it" factor the good qb's have, even as a junior. Just don't think we can afford not to offer a kid this good that's 30 miles down the road from Ames, and I think he would fit in our offense better than he would at Iiowa. But maybe Iowa thinks they can make a pocket passer out of him.

I have to admit,I haven't seen much video on Boyle, and while I'm not a "starsand offers" kinda guy, I find it a bit odd that if he's as good as some of you say, that he doesn't have as much national notice and as many offers as Lazard had a year ago this time. I mean, it's not as if Dowling is any lower profile a school than Urbandale--or quarterback isn't a premium position.
 
Very insightful, Iowa also has a population of 3 million, Texas 26 million. I can't imagine why there's a higher volume of D1 players....

He meant single HSs in Texas. Don't think there are any with more than 3 million students.
 
I have to admit,I haven't seen much video on Boyle, and while I'm not a "starsand offers" kinda guy, I find it a bit odd that if he's as good as some of you say, that he doesn't have as much national notice and as many offers as Lazard had a year ago this time. I mean, it's not as if Dowling is any lower profile a school than Urbandale--or quarterback isn't a premium position.

I really don't understand it either except it happens occasionally. I don't often stick my neck out and pound the table for an Iowa kid. There's just a few other than Boyle I thought were being completely overlooked (I don't know how to check it but my posting history will back that up). I saw Knott play against Ankeny as a senior and posted we should get him when we weren't recruiting him under Chizik (but then Iowa hadn't offered either). After CPR was hired he went to see his old high school coaches at Ankeny and I was told they showed him film of Knott. I saw David Johnson of Clinton play and kept posting we should offer, but neither Iowa or ISU did. I loved the Decorah rb/linebacker from a couple of years ago that nobody was offering (can't remember his name), until Iowa finally did very late, and I'm afraid he'll be a real good one. Just seems like some really good Iowa kids get under rated and it's hard to figure why. I think Boyle is in that class, though obviously Iowa now has offered.
 
I don't claim to be a recruiting expert, but from watching DLC's highlight reel he's a great runner, but I didn't think he stood out as a passer as far as a d-1 prospect. He may turn out to be a very good or excellent passer, but if not, he looks like a great athlete that could be a receiver or safety with his size and speed, maybe even at the next level. He's also a class ahead of Boyle. Imo qb's like Boyle don't come along in Iowa very often and along with his great running and passing skills, he seems to have that "it" factor the good qb's have, even as a junior. Just don't think we can afford not to offer a kid this good that's 30 miles down the road from Ames, and I think he would fit in our offense better than he would at Iiowa. But maybe Iowa thinks they can make a pocket passer out of him.

You appear to be a Boyle fan. I see what the you and the Hawkeyes like from his 15 min highlights.

2013 Junior Highlights

We need to offer this kid. After more digging, I found info on IrishEnvy.com about Beneventi (the "4Star" that the Hawkeyes offered first). Notre Dame fans were praying for him not to commit or for the ND coaches to pull the offer. Is anyone talking about this on the Hawk boards?

2013 Junior Stats:

Jack Beneventi (4Star)
6'6" 190
6-4 record
122/218 56%
1303 yards
7 TD
9 Int
Rushed for -72 yards

Ryan Boyle (No Star)
6'2" 215
14-0
119-187 64%
1833 yards
21 TD
3 Int
Rushed 1332 yards and 24 TD

Lets offer Boyle!
 
I could see this at some positions, but not at OL. QB? Sure, some want mobile guys, some pro style, some a combo. Yet a good OL blocks, plain and simple. Who cares besides that?
I recall CPR talking about how they wanted to bring in leaner, more mobile O linemen early in his tenure here. I don't know much about these particular kids but it sure sounds like Rhoads sees a difference he wants or at least wanted in O linemen.
 
You appear to be a Boyle fan. I see what the you and the Hawkeyes like from his 15 min highlights.

2013 Junior Highlights

We need to offer this kid. After more digging, I found info on IrishEnvy.com about Beneventi (the "4Star" that the Hawkeyes offered first). Notre Dame fans were praying for him not to commit or for the ND coaches to pull the offer. Is anyone talking about this on the Hawk boards?

2013 Junior Stats:

Jack Beneventi (4Star)
6'6" 190
6-4 record
122/218 56%
1303 yards
7 TD
9 Int
Rushed for -72 yards

Ryan Boyle (No Star)
6'2" 215
14-0
119-187 64%
1833 yards
21 TD
3 Int
Rushed 1332 yards and 24 TD

Lets offer Boyle!

After more "digging", I found not one mention of Beneventi on the Irish Rivals boards, including the premium board I am a member of. Not that I care, but found it fascinating that anyone on this board cares. He appears to be a guy that fits Iowa's system better than ND's, but guys don't just roll out of bed and become 4-star QB's.

As for Boyle, looks like Iowa fans are all in. I think the prevailing thought is the kid is a winner and would welcome the opportunity to compete. Good teams have good QB's. I know his family pretty well-I think concern for both Iowa and Iowa State should be that he has sights set higher.
 

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