Note that the linked piece is authored by the Commissioner of the National Football League.
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Roger Goodell: Football's Future If the Players Win - WSJ.com
If the NFL Players win
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Note that the linked piece is authored by the Commissioner of the National Football League.
Link:
Roger Goodell: Football's Future If the Players Win - WSJ.com
As did I. Imo it is Goodell using fear tactics- "If the players do not give us what we need, the only other option is chaos."
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I agree. I've not once heard anything along those lines. So unless the players have drastically changed their stance recently, Goodell is full of it. And all I'd have to do is look at his track record to choose option B.
Yeah, Goodell is an ***. While NFL players do make a large amount of money compared to the general populace, their careers are also short and medicals bills high. Suck it up owners, and pay the players what they're worth.
I think the union basically disbanded in order to be able to really challenge the NFL in court, and this hypothetical scenario could only really occur if the players wanted it (and I don't think they do). Anyway, that is my drive-by take on it.
If the players don't like their paychecks then they should find a different employer or career like the rest of us do.
They aren't looking for a raise. The owners are trying to add 2 games to the schedule, while forcing the players to take a pay cut. I'm sorry, WHO'S being greedy here?
I like the system NFL has now with a real salary cap. I mean compared to baseball where the Yankees can buy a championship team I think its needed. The players should shut up and play. Its not like any of them are going to quit and get a real job. Just my opinion though. For what they're making now I'd take the more than certain death that would follow walking on the field. Whine a little if you want, but play the game you're living a dream.
The owners are looking at increasing revenue while decreasing what they pay the players. That's just not right, I don't care how much the players make. Plenty of people make a solid living on less than $200,000 a year. Why not cut the players down to that? It's tough to draw the line if your argument is "you make more than enough to play a game".
Exactly. If you were asked to work more in a dangerous industry without extra pay, you would be ****** too. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the NFL argument in court boiled down to "the players were happy with the previous arrangement, so clearly it was unfair."
The owners want more out of the pie because of increasing expenses and what not but then want to add two more games. Won't that extra home game if they go to 18 games help offset the increasing expenses?
The players want to stick with the current CBA, the owners are the ones wanting changes and the players to sacrifice. The owners are the rich just wanting to get richer while the players just want what's fair and be taken care of.
The players want to stick with the current CBA, the owners are the ones wanting changes and the players to sacrifice. The owners are the rich just wanting to get richer while the players just want what's fair and be taken care of.
CycloneErik
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Is Goodell's argument that the players are demanding a free market with all of the ups and downs it can bring with it?
It is my understanding this paycut is creating a max or guidelines for rookies...which I fully support. The rookie salaries/contracts are completely insane.
How much is an NFL player worth then? These are guys that are being paid millions of dollars and are making more in their few years than others will make in a lifetime. Most of these players are not even literate by normal standards, and yet they are making millions. There are tons of jobs which will lead to long term negative health effects, and the league is getting safer every year. Do you think the players have the ability to market their own teams and product the way the owners and NFL had?
Come on, I saw last year that the Rooney's(Pittsburgh's owners) are worth less than every single players on that team(net worth less than a million dollars). Every one looks at the owners and says they are alright, but their worth is not coming from football. When they have to start using some of the private fortune to fund the league, it may be doable but not sustainable. These players can't even add in most cases, so I wouldn't expect them to understand a balance sheet of this magnitude. I can see the owners perspective. They basically wanted another chunk of money before the rest was divided up among the CBA. Actually working in a business, I have seen the costs rising year after year, no matter what guys like Ben Bernake are saying. The same is likely true for the NFL, and the players don't pay these, or even have anything to do with all of this. I am not saying lay down, but I think the de facto union(the fact they disbanded is a sham) will have to bend a little. That is what negotiations are for.
Interesting take on the WSJ article:
Joe Posnanski » Posts Goodell to the Last Drop «
And based on Goodell’s opinion column in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. it looks like the impressive NFL commissioner is completely out of ideas. I wrote on Twitter that the only thing missing from this ludicrous column was exclamation points. You could tell right away that this column was untrustworthy when in the second sentence he wrote, “For six weeks, there has been a work stoppage,” as if that was caused by some sort of natural disaster and was not a result of the owners locking out the players. He then talks about how great the NFL system has been for everyone without even taking one sentence to mention the inconvenient fact that it was the owners, not the players, who wanted to blow up the old system in a bald money grab. He then offers an utterly unrealistic and devious doomsday scenario “if the players win” — a scenario that he knows will never happen and is only in play now because of the owners’ greedy lockout that was slammed down by the courts.
Joe Posnanski » Posts Goodell to the Last Drop «
And based on Goodell’s opinion column in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. it looks like the impressive NFL commissioner is completely out of ideas. I wrote on Twitter that the only thing missing from this ludicrous column was exclamation points. You could tell right away that this column was untrustworthy when in the second sentence he wrote, “For six weeks, there has been a work stoppage,” as if that was caused by some sort of natural disaster and was not a result of the owners locking out the players. He then talks about how great the NFL system has been for everyone without even taking one sentence to mention the inconvenient fact that it was the owners, not the players, who wanted to blow up the old system in a bald money grab. He then offers an utterly unrealistic and devious doomsday scenario “if the players win” — a scenario that he knows will never happen and is only in play now because of the owners’ greedy lockout that was slammed down by the courts.
I'd like to see some proof of that, because that might be the most ludicrous statement I've ever seen. Ever.