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blood94

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Everyone on here is saying there feelings about the move to chicago for fred but if you were playing for him how would you feel coming back for you season and your coach decided to just leave. especially after saying that this is the dream job for him a couple years ago. hallice cook and burton came here to play for fred, they have burned a full year waiting to play and now they have to play for someone else.

what i am also worried about is how this team which we have grown to love watching them go up and down the floor at breakneck pace and score in the 80-90 point range in the last 2 years will react to another coach that doesnt have the same philosophy of mismatches and open shots.

anyone else worried about that particular scenario because we were not that great of a defensive team even with jamel at the end of the year so we needed to outscore people
 
blood94 said:
Everyone on here is saying there feelings about the move to chicago for fred but if you were playing for him how would you feel coming back for you season and your coach decided to just leave. especially after saying that this is the dream job for him a couple years ago. hallice cook and burton came here to play for fred, they have burned a full year waiting to play and now they have to play for someone else.
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Matt Thomas just retweeted this. Can't see how the players wouldn't be hurt, but we are lucky to have such a great group of guys playing for ISU. They will rally around each other.

@thetontthomas - Commitment means staying loyal to what you said you were going to do long after the mood you said it in has left you.
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EatemupISU said:
Matt Thomas just retweeted this. Can't see how the players wouldn't be hurt, but we are lucky to have such a great group of guys playing for ISU. They will rally around each other.



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Was literally just going to put that in here. I imagine they feel like they were stabbed in the back.
 
It's a reality of college basketball that the coach could leave. They aren't little children. I'm sure they wish Fred would stay but they will move on.
 
My thoughts...
I think they all know this is part of the business....doesn't mean (like all of us) they are not bummed/frustrated.

BUT, I think many of us have shared this last years team lacked leadership/passion and i believe they will rally and show that THEY are ISU..not a coach.
 
blood94 said:
Everyone on here is saying there feelings about the move to chicago for fred but if you were playing for him how would you feel coming back for you season and your coach decided to just leave. especially after saying that this is the dream job for him a couple years ago. hallice cook and burton came here to play for fred, they have burned a full year waiting to play and now they have to play for someone else.

what i am also worried about is how this team which we have grown to love watching them go up and down the floor at breakneck pace and score in the 80-90 point range in the last 2 years will react to another coach that doesnt have the same philosophy of mismatches and open shots.

anyone else worried about that particular scenario because we were not that great of a defensive team even with jamel at the end of the year so we needed to outscore people
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This is a primary concern of mine, too. Iowa State was on the cutting edge of redefining offensive basketball at the NCAA level the last few years, and this team is built to score. Does the administration take that into account when hiring a new coach, or do they try and mis-fit this team into another system that wastes their potential? No question, this team needs to show more defense to get into the late rounds of the NCAAs, but will they lose their identity and start over from scratch?
 
CapnCy said:
My thoughts...
I think they all know this is part of the business....doesn't mean (like all of us) they are not bummed/frustrated.

BUT, I think many of us have shared this last years team lacked leadership/passion and i believe they will rally and show that THEY are ISU..not a coach.
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And that well could have been because this was seen coming down the road.


For a 25-9 top ten team something seemed amiss.
 
EatemupISU said:
Matt Thomas just retweeted this. Can't see how the players wouldn't be hurt, but we are lucky to have such a great group of guys playing for ISU. They will rally around each other.



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Ouch, on the Thomas retweet. But hopefully all will bond together. Sorry, I suppose I'm the only one, but I kinda feel sorry for the players and JP. Yes, JP, too. I feel like he's in a no-win situation with this hire. In time, hopefully we'll be able to look back & say how good it was.
 
allfourcy said:
Ouch, on the Thomas retweet. But hopefully all will bond together. Sorry, I suppose I'm the only one, but I kinda feel sorry for the players and JP. Yes, JP, too. I feel like he's in a no-win situation with this hire. In time, hopefully we'll be able to look back & say how good it was.
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Why "ouch"? From the way I read it, he is encouraging his current and future teammates to stick with their commitments to isu. That's encouraging, not "ouch"
 
its got to be tough on thomas to have hoiberg tell him to his face he'll be back and then find out he was telling recruits he couldn't guarantee it.
 
Most of them have the same goal as Fred - go to the NBA some day.
 
brokenloginagain said:
its got to be tough on thomas to have hoiberg tell him to his face he'll be back and then find out he was telling recruits he couldn't guarantee it.
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Good lesson for Thomas--in the end, Fred is just a man--nothing more and nothing less. Even the best and brightest of men and women (and certainly Fred is pretty darn bright) are human beings who give and take, who succeed and fail, and who live and die.
 
iowast8fan said:
Why "ouch"? From the way I read it, he is encouraging his current and future teammates to stick with their commitments to isu. That's encouraging, not "ouch"
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Dude how are the blinders treating you? The guy is obviously hurting and you're putting a homer slant on his words. The timing wasn't a mistake.
 
blood94 said:
Everyone on here is saying there feelings about the move to chicago for fred but if you were playing for him how would you feel coming back for you season and your coach decided to just leave. especially after saying that this is the dream job for him a couple years ago. hallice cook and burton came here to play for fred, they have burned a full year waiting to play and now they have to play for someone else.

what i am also worried about is how this team which we have grown to love watching them go up and down the floor at breakneck pace and score in the 80-90 point range in the last 2 years will react to another coach that doesnt have the same philosophy of mismatches and open shots.

anyone else worried about that particular scenario because we were not that great of a defensive team even with jamel at the end of the year so we needed to outscore people
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I'm not worried about the players in the slightest. I feel for them but not worried.
 
iowast8fan said:
Why "ouch"? From the way I read it, he is encouraging his current and future teammates to stick with their commitments to isu. That's encouraging, not "ouch"
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sorry, didn't read it your way. Get your angle, but didn't think the part in the quote about "even after the 'mood' has left you" was referring to players' mood. I'll apologize and go with your view.
 
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