Hoiberg's post game comments

Our tallest guy was the 3rd, often 4th tallest guy on the court. Expect to get out rebounded people. They do the best they can.

Rebound? What's that? He was too busy launching a million ill-advised 3-pointers to even think about rebounding.
 
I am concerned about our shooting. Statistical regression? If so were going to be very hot soon. While Kansas looked great we sunk ourselves with clank after clank after clank.
Lost the game on shooting. We looked like a WVU team shooting.
 
Disappointed we shot so poorly 2 games in a row, but shooting comes and goes. Much more disappointed how poorly we rebounded 2 games in a row, however. Actually, just looked and we've been outrebounded 4 out of 4 conference games. That's not a pretty statistic and going to be tough winning games like that going forward.

Honest question: Was our apparent early season rebounding a mirage against inferior opponents or what?
If tou watch as shot goes up, our 215 pound rebounders are being shoved around and out of place. Maybe they need to glue their feet to the floor for an instant and not get shoved into the rafters. Spangler and Embiid shoved quite a bit. Sometimes a foul is called. Then the JHawks could outjump our people. Wiggins is one of those guys who can scoot around the bucket.
 
Rebounding wasn't as bad as it looked. I was made way worse by missing so many shots.

It is really amazing how people have been missing the direct correlation between hideously poor shooting on our part and the rebound differential the last two games.

It's like they don't understand that the more shots you miss, the more rebounds are available.

The fact that this team stayed the last two games with as poorly as they shot is incredible. Really speaks to the toughness of this group.

We are going to be ok.
 
If tou watch as shot goes up, our 215 pound rebounders are being shoved around and out of place. Maybe they need to glue their feet to the floor for an instant and not get shoved into the rafters. Spangler and Embiid shoved quite a bit. Sometimes a foul is called. Then the JHawks could outjump our people. Wiggins is one of those guys who can scoot around the bucket.



I cannot believe I am saying this, but Wesley gets it
 
Shooting was obviously a main reason we lost. I did start to notice in the OU and then this game again that there are so many times especially on the defensive end that the guys arent in terrible position they just can not grab the ball out of the air. The ball hits 3 different ISU players before anyone can actually grab the ball. Need to work on strength in their hands. And last thing, Embiid was hooking so much down low, you would have thought it was his job.
 
It is really amazing how people have been missing the direct correlation between hideously poor shooting on our part and the rebound differential the last two games.

It's like they don't understand that the more shots you miss, the more rebounds are available.

The fact that this team stayed the last two games with as poorly as they shot is incredible. Really speaks to the toughness of this group.

We are going to be ok.

Post is 100% right on.
 
It is really amazing how people have been missing the direct correlation between hideously poor shooting on our part and the rebound differential the last two games.

It's like they don't understand that the more shots you miss, the more rebounds are available.

ISU's shooting wasn't "hideously poor" against OU. ISU shot 34-65 for 52%. That's quite good for a road game. OU shot 28-69 for 41%. OU missed 10 more shots than ISU, but out-rebounded ISU by 7.

I mentioned above that the Iowa game was an indicator to me of ISU's rebounding issues. In that game, Iowa missed six more shots than ISU, yet out-rebounded by ISU by 14. ISU shot 48% in that game, which is respectable.

In the KU game, no doubt the poor shooting inflated the KU rebounding total, as ISU missed 17 more shots than KU. But poor shooting is not the lone explanation for the rebounding problem. I think there are some fundamental issues that ISU has to address on the rebounding side. No problem if you don't agree.
 
Probably should have worked on rebounding technique after OU abused us on the offensive glass and caused our first loss of the season, don't ya think?

With one day to prepare for KU, not enough time to iron out the rebounding issues. Hogue had 9 rebounds, which is about his average. Niang had 6, which is also slightly above his average. Kane slightly above his average and Ejim slightly below. So, other than Ejim, everyone rebounded pretty well.
 
ISU's shooting wasn't "hideously poor" against OU. ISU shot 34-65 for 52%. That's quite good for a road game. OU shot 28-69 for 41%. OU missed 10 more shots than ISU, but out-rebounded ISU by 7.

I mentioned above that the Iowa game was an indicator to me of ISU's rebounding issues. In that game, Iowa missed six more shots than ISU, yet out-rebounded by ISU by 14. ISU shot 48% in that game, which is respectable.

In the KU game, no doubt the poor shooting inflated the KU rebounding total, as ISU missed 17 more shots than KU. But poor shooting is not the lone explanation for the rebounding problem. I think there are some fundamental issues that ISU has to address on the rebounding side. No problem if you don't agree.


They were horrible at OU behind the arc is the point he was making. ISU made all the bunnies but none of their jumpers would fall.
 
They were horrible at OU behind the arc is the point he was making. ISU made all the bunnies but none of their jumpers would fall.

What's the relevance to rebounding? ISU missed 20 (6-26) 3-ptrs and OU missed 17 (13-30). Not much of a difference there.
 
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What's the relevance to rebounding? ISU missed 20 (6-26) 3-ptrs and OU missed 17 (13-30). Not much of a difference there.
What is the relevance of the OU game?
Against OU our rebounding was poor because our rebounding was poor. Against KU, a much bigger and longer team, we got killed on the boards largely because KU shot a good percentage while we shot horribly.

I think our rebounding needs to improve, but there is no need to be a simpleton.
 
Probably should have worked on rebounding technique after OU abused us on the offensive glass and caused our first loss of the season, don't ya think?

They probably did -- for the one day they got to practice.

Edit -- Looks like about 50 people beat me to the punch--guess I should read further when a post gets stuck in my craw.
 
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ISU FG 22-70

KU FG 30-61

So KU had a chance at 48 defensive rebounds vs ISU's chances of 31. That's 17 more chances -- KU wound up with 18 more defensive rebounds.
 
ISU FG 22-70

KU FG 30-61

So KU had a chance at 48 defensive rebounds vs ISU's chances of 31. That's 17 more chances -- KU wound up with 18 more defensive rebounds.

It's actually even more than that. We missed 48 shots, but going back and looking through the play-by-play, we missed 7 free throws that resulted in live balls. So 7 additional opportunities for Kansas to get a defensive rebounds. They ended up getting 6 of those. On the other hand, Kansas missed 4 free throws that ended up in live balls, giving us 4 more chances for defensive rebounds. We converted 3/4 of those.

To summarize, Kansas had opportunities for 55 defensive rebounds. Iowa State had opportunities for 35 defensive rebounds. With the disparity in the way the two teams shot, it would have been extremely difficult for ISU to have more defensive rebounds than Kansas.
 
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