General Sickness
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Huh, that’s all extremely weird but I’ve never done rural medicine really. That just not the way that should work or be processed.
It's 3-parts, mostly parts 1-2:
- The horrific food that we eat in the US because our food system wants two things: Cheaper and greater quantities. The byproduct of this system is a significant downgrade in quality and nutrient density.
- Culture to work at a sitting desk, sit and stream shows, and sit on our phones all day versus moving our bodies and going outside
- Over prescription of drugs and rushing off the the clinic at every fever
Let's be clear on one thing. I'm not annoyed at all with what my doctors wouldn't/couldn't tell me. I'm merely using it as part of the argument. During my treatment I was informed of the 'probability' of the consequences of the drugs being fed to me. That, imo, is being well-informed. I accepted those odds and have since begun to experience the consequences. Regardless, 'odds' is a good thing!
And, I believe we can also agree that science is a moving object, constantly evolving based on evidence. And, I believe we also agree that there's a fulcrum in the course of a carcinogen. Meaning, at some point there's enough evidence that has surfaced over time that the scientific community embraces it as such.
Which brings me to my final point, which BTW is also what troubles me. I coined a phrase decades ago: "Fact is merely the consensus of opinions." Change enough opinions and voila: fact!
Do we truly need an Erin Brockovich for every carcinogen? Does it have to get to that point? Are we being exposed to 'backroom known' carcinogens? Based on history, I'm absolutely convinced we are. Not everything, but definitely some things.
I've worked in the cellular industry for most of my life. The evolution of the antenna (brick to flip to palm) is fascinating: slowly over time becoming more obscure. There are two possible reasons for that: one, the darned thing is in the way, and the other an attempt to shield it away from the head. Also, these phones, by design, have extra shielding inside: the primary argument to prevent EMI. I get it. Valid arguments. Nevertheless, one can not be blamed for considering the alternative.
Rural medicine is poor many times. We are just a smidge over 2 hours from Mayo so I had my mom go there for anything more than basic stuff. What really opened my eyes was when I was given moms folder to take to Mayo. There was even personal attacks about me in the reports because I would question her on why things were happening. She doesn’t like to be questioned. It became clear she was trying to make genius diagnosis instead of working the logical routes.
Regarding testing for potential carcinogens: this is a great updated article from a real scientist:
All the Carcinogens We Cannot See
We routinely test for chemicals that cause mutations. What about the dark matter of carcinogens—substances that don’t create cancer cells but rouse them from their slumber?
If you actually get involved with research you will quickly learn how expensive it is to run tests more sophisticated than the Ames test (described in the above article), and how ambiguous are the results of more sophisticated (animal-based) models.
After you’ve run an economic analysis of the cost (and often ambiguous outcomes) of more sophisticated testing for potential carcinogens, get back to me about the feasibility of requiring that type of testing for every new technology or product on the market.
Just the electromagnetic things proliferating at 2 million per day that are pervasive (ie no escaping their 'supposed' effects), and increasing their wavelengths with every generation. Or are you saying the Prop 65 warning on the packaging is sufficient? Cause if it is, how are people supposed to be able to escape these? Why are sterner labels and sterner policies in place for several other countries, but not here? C'mon. The answer is really simple, but people here want to believe our 'science' is better.Regarding testing for potential carcinogens: this is a great updated article from a real scientist:
All the Carcinogens We Cannot See
We routinely test for chemicals that cause mutations. What about the dark matter of carcinogens—substances that don’t create cancer cells but rouse them from their slumber?www.newyorker.com
If you actually get involved with research you will quickly learn how expensive it is to run tests more sophisticated than the Ames test (described in the above article), and how ambiguous are the results of more sophisticated (animal-based) models.
After you’ve run an economic analysis of the cost (and often ambiguous outcomes) of more sophisticated testing for potential carcinogens, get back to me about the feasibility of requiring that type of testing for every new technology or product on the market.
If you think electromagnetic waves might be causing cancer (potentially including your own) you could’ve just come out and said as much.
American Cancer Society has a pretty fair summary of information on this: https://amp.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/radiation-exposure/radiofrequency-radiation.html
I’m still happy to discuss this in PMs or (preferably) in another dedicated thread, but I don’t want to derail this thread any further so I won’t respond any more here.
Rural locations unfortunately tend to limit choices. So if you are stuck with mediocre or worse, that's a problem. Otherwise, I would point out that mediocre or worse doctors are not limited to rural locations by any means. Anecdotally, I would also add that the finest doctor I've ever encountered is a "rural" doctor.
Your statement is an 'assumption', which btw is incorrect. And, in respect of not caving this, I'll PM instead.
Having a folder might be a step up from my dad and folks' Dr.'s I think.
Their Dr's are strong in the 'it is what it is' for everything.
These folks are in their late 70s and it was just in February that one of their Drs mentioned the RSV shot that would have been best to get in early November if one wanted to.
Taking it or not is another subject but not presenting your patients with the information imo is malpractice.
Since there seem to be no guardrails on things to blame for poor health in this thread, I'm gonna throw out some Iowa-specific items. Form your own conclusions.
www.nature.com
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Agricultural fertilisers contribute substantially to microplastic concentrations in UK soils - Communications Earth & Environment
Microplastic concentrations in agricultural soils increased at higher rates between 1966 and 2022 when farm manure and inorganic fertilizers were added than when soils were not amended, suggests an analysis of soil samples from the Broadbalk winter wheat experiment in the United Kingdom.
www.nature.com
Could Microplastics Be a Driver for Early Onset Colorectal Cancer? - PMC
The incidence of colorectal cancer has increasing dramatically in those under 50 years of age. These cancers are prominently in the sigmoid colon and rectum. This increase in incidence of colorectal appears his appears to have be a cohort effect ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Husband puking last night so I slept next to a wriggle 5yr old. I blame this thread.
Maybe he has night sickness. Men get that sometimes when their wives are pregnant
He was still feeling sus this morning and took a half day. So far it remains at one puking incident. I told him thank goodness he was never a pregnant woman with morning sickness cause he'd not survive.
14 month old threw up all over his crib last week, full on Exorcist in there. I went to bed the next night thinking it was kinda chilly and then threw up every last ounce of liquid I had in my body on repeat.
My wife couldn't remember the last time I was sick like that (been together for 13 years). Outside brown bottle flu at a bachelor party it's been a while. Kids are germ factories case eleventy billion.
My wife couldn't remember the last time I was sick like that (been together for 13 years). Outside brown bottle flu at a bachelor party it's been a while. Kids are germ factories case eleventy billion.
We have these school nights in Ames where a restaurant gives a % of sales to the school. Its a good thing but I had to eat at Mcdonalds last night, had a Big Mac and couldn't finish it, it was so nasty. Only burger place I enjoy anymore is B bops. Otherwise I can make a better one at home.
Late yesterday afternoon outside the west Ames McD, I saw the Hamburglar and the purple thing and a few other people on the sidewalk. Wondered what they were doing, because I don't know of many people who walk that sidewalk to go there.